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LegionZero wrote: Anime episode 4

Trish saw her from the building, she did not knew a thing about her. There was no way for her to know what Lady was capable of. She only saw her taking down on a motorbike, yet she started the whole thing by Firing Lighting at her... Lighting! We all know how fast this thing is.

It didnt destroy the building, it blew hole in the roof. She didnt hit Lady even though she was at point blank range. She was trollong Lady until Dante arrived.

"She didnt hit Lady even though she was at point blank range." That whole action didnt made sense from a logical point of view. Either Lady have superhuman durability... Trish possesed ability for her lighting to ignore humans and just harm "objects (since the roof was destroyed and Lady was in front of her)"... or the anime have a lot of stupidy in it.

It really shouldnt take science to deduce that the strength needed to lift small vehicles is more than enough to break bones.

You say that but Trish "who was capable of lifting small vehicle" wasnt capable of breaking Lady like a "twig"... Even if you say that she was "holding back"...

Trish was barely able to HOLD V in DMC 5. V! And when she was holding him and preventing him from falling into the ground (And dying) she was struggling a lot. She made groans as if it were causing her problems.

The lightning didnt hit Lady. She would have been fried if it did. She would have been thrown into ceiling if it did. Her clothes would have been burned off if it did.

We have established that Trish's lightning, at minimum, can blow holes in buildings. Interesting how on the night they first "fought" Trish didnt blow holes in the rooftops Lady was standing on.

Trish is bad at strategy ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ We have also established that the whole scene with roof-blowing and Lady standing in the point blank range doesnt make any sense. Trish doesnt have a single way (as we are aware) in which her lighting could somehow avoid Lady (that stands in front of her) yet destroy the roof. We also know that Trish was firing bullets powered up with lighting and lighting waves at Lady during the first night, without knowing what Lady was fully capable of. Lady managed to dodge it. So either Trish lighting is super slow, or Lady have superhuman reflex and speed.

She was waiting for Dante to show up so that he could explain to Lady that Trish isnt a bad guy/enemy. Any quote from Trish that states that?

Accurate power-scaling would be comparing one ground punch to another.

You cant compare the damage done because they were on different surfaces and the attacks werent directed the same way.

I will agree with the ground punch here.... however damage done on different surfaces could be measured in this case, since DMC shop is using wooden planks. She wasnt punching him in the way Beo was, so point for you.

Yes. But why does this matter? This wasnt about bullets and guns. This about melee combat.

You've stated at the start that the bullets cant hurt Dante, so I am clarifying things.

Or that Trish was giving him a decent challenge. And needed time to recover. It wasnt until she stopped the constant barrage to throw the motorcycle that was able to do anything to defend himself.

The whole "Sneak attack" and "stun during paralyss" is more likely.

"Win." Trish and Dante didnt see their fight through to the end. Trish casually and confidently walked around the office despite Dante holding her at gun point, showing that she wasnt afraid for her life.

"Showing that she wasnt afraid for her life." It is your speculation.

The fact is that Dante had her on the ground on point-blank range and she had to say that she's not his enemy.

Not that this is a DB discussion, but GT isnt canon. It doesnt fit in with the DBS timeline Just wanted to throw something there, that we both can agree on.

And no crossovers are not valid indicators of anything. They are made by different people for fan service. There is no legitimite powerscaling involved.

The pachinko machines are not canon. They are full of randomness and scenes that dont align with the games.

True, yet at the same time, they are sticking to certain facts.. regarding series.

No i dont get you. You agree that Trish has better feats in almost every catagory, and more abilities but suggest that she is equal to Lady because of a fight where Trish was holding back so that she didnt kill Lady.

It's more or so grounded in the newest games/anime/books/manga. Mine (and many others people in the fandom) opinion about Trish has been strongly influenced by them. Right now we see her as someone who is not just.. not strong. Dont get me wrong, she can take down a few lesser demons, but that's it. As a reason of my statement I will use example of Cavaliere Angelo on Elder Greyon. She was easily defeated by the weakest protagoinst (V), who also stated that he cant beat Malphas and Gilgamesh. Meaning? Malphas and Gilgamesh > Cavaliere (and therefore Trish). Before you say that Cavaliere is not Trish.. and is not on the same spectrum of power... Even Dante talks to Cavaliere and points out that it is indeed Trish. ("This clothes doesnt suit you" "I forgot how scary you are when you get angry") He even comments that she doesnt stand a chance against him. Why am I bringing this up? To solidify my remark that Trish wouldnt stand a chance against a lot of bosses.

Trish can casually throw motorcycles, but cant break Lady's bones?

Yet she can barely lift V. She shouldnt be able to break Lady's bones.

Trish can survive Mundus' death beams but not some bullets?

Considering how she barely surived that ONE shoot and a single bullet can wound her as well.. It's safe to assume that few bullets would be able to kill her.

Trish can smack around Dante, but not Lady?

Trish can smack "paralysed" Dante around. Not Lady apparently.

Lady even says she feels like shes fighting another human, but we know for a fact that Trish's capabilities in strength and durability FAR exceed that of a humans. That is proof she was holding back.

Or a proof that Trish is indeed not that powerful and even some humans can get to that level.

The beam that Dante deflected AFTER Sparda gave him power. The beam from a god level character who could only be beaten by power from another god level character.

Or.. DMC3 Vergil.. if he wasnt tired from Dante fight. Gods in DMC arent really that strong.

If you are going to say that bullets=/=laser death beams from god-tiers i dont know what to tell you.

A lot of bullets = laser from a guy who wasnt even in his final form.

Never denied that bullets hurt him. They do insignificant damage, but this was never about bullets hurting. I dont know how many times i clarified that humans cant hurt Dante in melee combat.

You probably made a mistake at the start stating that they cant hurt him. So I wanted to clarify it with you.

Anime episode 1

DMC 2. Dante was going for the kill on Arius when he was still a human. He hangs out with Lady that killed yet another human, her father.

That doesnt mean they kill humans. Their job is literally to protect humans from demons. Not once did they kill a normal human, regardless of how evil they were.

Look above