Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-27126610-20181025025612/@comment-26045423-20181025134333

I think that in order to turn some demon into DA you need either kill it yourself or gain it respect.

If you gained respect of some demon, he might willingly turn into DA. (Like Dante did with Cerberus) or serve you (Like Alastor or Iffrit or Agni & Rudra). However in order to transform a demon into DA you need to:
 * Have powerful demon in the first place, you cant transform weaklings into DA in the first place, then you have to:
 * possess Sparda's blood, we never saw anyone outside of the Sparda's family to do it.
 * use demon's soul (Vergil transformed Beowulf soul into DA and then destroyed his body)
 * use his body (Cavaliere is basically only Cavaliere's Angelo body parts infused with motorcycle)
 * use both soul and body (as we have seen with Nevan or Cerberus).

'''Why Dante has never turned DMC 4 bossess into Devil Arms himself? I'll go with LegionZero response.'''

Even if you could transform them into DA, it would've been the weakest DA in DMC universe (in my opinion).
 * They were simply far to weak, even compared to other demons Dante faced.
 * He himself stated that he expected more from Beliar, he showed that not a single attack from Echinda could've amused him....
 * We literally dont have to talk about Bael or Dagon..... They were so weak and unimpressive... We even saw many of them coming out of the portal and them Dante killed them with few attacks....

'''About Dante not turning DMC 1 bossess into DA.... '''
 * He never killed Phantom to begin with, Phantom died due to being impaled by some other object and then shattered (just to came back in DMC2 and anime and Light Novel ;v;)
 * Griffon was killed by Mundus, so it's out of the realm of possibility as well
 * Nightmare was finally killed by Dante in hell, but he was so pissed off on Trish that he probably wasnt even bothering himself at that point.
 * He never killed Mundus just sealed him off (because he was too weak to kill him at that point), so he was unable to get his soul nor body.

To be honest.... DA made out of the Mundus would've been one of the strongest DA in the DMC universe...

'''Why he has never turned Argosax into Devil Arm? Or any DMC 2 boss?''' Why Dante never turned Leviathan into Devil Arm in DMC3?
 * Argosax would've been one of the most powerful DA in the DMC universe, so why not?
 * Well either Dante couldnt because Argosax spirit was too strong. (Not very likely considering how easily Dante has defeated him).
 * Dante simply never wanted Argosax as his DA. As Legion has mentioned Dante have a bunch of fire type Devil Arms. Having incredibly powerful one after the entire battle was over was truly unnecesary from both story and gameplay perspective.
 * We also know that Dante is selling a lot of his Devil Arms, selling DA made out of (Pure Evil could have affected the normal human user, perhaps?)
 * The main reason is... There was no need to. As for other DMC 2 bossess? The same rule that applied to DMC 4 ones, they were too weak.

Well this one is a big stretch (everything that I've said is) I honestly think that Dante wasnt capable of transforming it due to the body and souls size, (Tho Dante from DMC 4 or 2 or 5 would've been able to do it).
 * But honestly I think it was beyond Dante's powers.... Dante in DMC 3 is the weakest Dante and he had to kill Leviathan from inside.
 * He simply couldnt transform it's body nor soul due to some reason....
 * Maybe some of Leviathans body parts were still alive and you need entire thing to be dead?
 * Maybe Dante never wanted to have that big Devil Arm and he simply wasnt even trying?

As for your last question, how I imagine bossess as Devil Arms?
 * Phantom: Fire whip that allows you to pull enemies to him (similar to lady in DMC 4) and attack with it, because his tail.
 * Griffon: Two wing-shaped daggers that allow you to fly or attack with wind/thunders
 * Nightmare: Well like Nightmare gun
 * Nelo Angelo: I honestly dont think you can turn artifical humans nor half-demons into Devil Arms.... But Nelo's sword
 * Mundus: Probably one of the best Devil Arms in DMC series, I dunno why but I imagine him as a white sphere that Dante could control and fight with via telekinesis dealing crazy damage or use like gun.
 * Argosax: Fire one-handed sword with a shield.
 * Bolverk: Two wolf-daggers connected with chain with a skull on it
 * Infested Chopper: No. Just no, it's a weak mob that fused with chopper
 * Trishmagia: Elemental machine-gun that allows you to change element
 * Jokatgulm: Water staff that allows you to attack with water.
 * Nefasturiss: Some sort of gun that allows you to shot with white beams.
 * Beliar: Two handed Fire Sword even bigger than Rebellion. Something similar to Vendetta, but with fire powers. Heavy but Strong
 * Echinda: Grass whip.
 * Bael & Dagon: I dont think you can turn them into DA, they're too weak. Special boots that give you super jump/ice powers for Bael, and Special gloves with the same abilities for Dagon.

'''I should have noted. I dont think Nero can transform Demons into DA due to lack of demonic blood in his body.'''