Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-30399024-20180904163404/@comment-26045423-20190401080451

LegionZero wrote: How is it an opinion when DMC1 shows Trish capable of casually lifting and throwing motorcycles?Do you think Lady's body is stronger than a motorcycle? We're not arguing here about Trish being physically stronger than Lady. It's a fact. We're arguing that even with super strenght, she's not capable of beating her so easily and just "Breaking her like a twig" like you've stated. Anime and DMC4SE and DMC5 makes it more clear that they're roughly equal. Even if Trish is physically stronger, and have demonic powers... she still cant beat Lady easily in hand-to-hand combat. We have seen it in anime. And before you will say "yet again" that she was going easy on her.... That's not what happened at all. She called her bitch, zapped her and commented how well she was doing.

LegionZero wrote:

She was only jumping and dodging bullets and rockets a majority of the "fight." Trish also had the win at least 3 times, if she was fighting to kill. That doesnt change the fact that she was heavy-breathing before Dante stopped the fight.

LegionZero: That was taken out of context horribly. Superhuman characters cannot hurt Dante in melee combat. Trish punched kicked him across the. Trish electricuted Dante into submission twice. Dante didnt power through it, unlike the numerous bullets and blades he took throughout DMC3(except Vergil and Arkham) that he shrugged off. You're missing a lot of content in your sentences... You're saying that characters with Superhuman strenght cannot hurt Dante in melee combat (Trish is a character with superhuman strenght according to this wiki) and then you're saying that she electricuted him into submission... So what's your point here... Trish wasnt hurting him in melee and managed to do something with thunders? Trish was hurting him in melee so she's have even more powerful abilities than Superhuman?

And no, it wasnt taken out of context. He was hurt, you saw him bleeding. He commented how it hurts. The red screen during the shoot even indicates that he recived damage. Lady is basically nothing without her guns. Apparently she can go toe-to-toe with Trish even without her guns. According to the anime.

She ducked for cover before it exploded.

​​​​​Dante walked across the room before he pointed his gun at her. Trish watched. When he pointed his gun at her she stood up and started monologing and even turned he back to him while she was still aiming at her. She really wasnt afraid of his bullets.

She was afraid of his bullets, she was not capable of fighting from the position she was in (lying on the ground). She turned her back because she knew he wouldnt shoot (due to his mother face). It's even implied in the game later on (After Nightmare boss battle) when Dante pointed her gun at her (when she was shocked and afraid ((probably felt guilty as well))... The implication is clear, Dante shooting right there could easily kill her.

LegionZero wrote:

That is a huge exaggeration... one bullet doesnt leave bigger marked than 5, footwide blades running completely through his body ​​​​​ It's not. Rewatch the cutscenes. After he got stabbed and got rid of the blades.. there was literally not a single wound. Yet if you'll see the cutscene with Lady, the mark is on his forehead for quite a while. It left a bigger mark, because it lasted longer.

LegionZero wrote:

It did do something to him. He was literally yelling in pain and stunned/paralyzed. He hadnt recovered until she stopped Okay I will give you that one, after rewatching the fight with Nightmare (where she was helping him) she managed to do some damage (after sneak attack) with electricity. This is something she could be given a credit for... The problem is... she managed to only hit it when Dante was either distracted or already pushed on the ground... In the anime however she had a hard time to hit Lady with it.. yet she tried. Either Trish have a terrible aim or her electricity is super slow (despite being a thunder)

LegionZero wrote:

This was something else. The only major difference of events in the alt. universe i was aware of was Dante dying the night Eva died. Once again... how this... adds anything to Trish feats...

Legion Zero wrote:

Didnt they all end up dead? Wouldnt they also be stronger since it is 6 years later and they had been rebelling? What happened in this alt. universe doesnt matter much if we dont have a direct strength comparison to the original Trish. Nothing indicates that demons can get so strong in such small amount of time. According to Novel it took some of them 2000 years (sometimes more) to get strong. The only demons that got so strong in such small time-span are hybrids...

Whenever they survived or not is not important, what is important is the fact that... they managed to take down a lot of Trishes.

Doesnt matter much if we dont have a direct strength comparison to the original Trish Nothing indicates that she was weaker than original Trish, if anything she should be equal/a bit stronger due to having stronger creator and blade that was boosting her abilities.