Talk:DmC: Devil May Cry/Archive 1

"Doesn't Cite Any Sources..."
So...this page uses plenty of sources, and uses them all correctly as far as I can tell. should we remove that note at the top then? Derekoe 17:31, January 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes and no. The sources it uses are correct, and people have been very good about citing the things they can, but a lot of the information on the page are still speculation, and thus, unverified. I'd err on the side of leaving the template up at least until the game is released, if only to remind editors that this isn't the place for opinions. --Anobi 18:49, January 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * I can understand that, but what still falls under the rule of speculation? I'm curious.Derekoe 20:41, January 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Pretty much anything regarding gameplay, I'd say. We don't really know how DT or Dante's sword works, we can only make educated guesses. Stuff about the programming used or the reactions to the trailers is pretty much cut and dry, though. --Anobi 03:52, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Boycott
I've actually thought of something for anyone who would rather they not change the Devil May Cry franchise. We are in a unique position thanks to Capcom, where we can show them if we prefer the older games to the newer one developed by Ninja Theory. Think of it as a boycott that will lower the sales of the newer DMC game. Anyone who wants the game should, if possible, try to buy it used. Buying used copies will not help the sales of the game, thus it will not sell very well. Also, those who feel so inclined to buy the HD Collection of the original three titles should buy only new copies, if possible, in order to boost its sales. If the HD Collection sells better than the newer game, then it will be a clear message that the fans do not approve of the changes, and perfer the original titles.75.64.203.83 20:11, February 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * Or how about suck it up? Your plan is also flawed because for every used sale, there has to be a new sale to have traded it in. People wil buy DmC because they want to, and because they might like it. People will buy the HD Collection because it's a great deal (three full games for $40? Why the hell not?), and because they might never have played the originals before. I'm buying both, because I want to get that sweet HD deal, and because I want to continue to suppor the industry, and show with my money that gamers don't want things to continue to be as stale as they have been for the past few years.


 * It's also silly to come to a wiki for "boycott" support when the definition of a wiki is the be unbiased.


 * There's also a fact that Capcom clearly doesn't care about its fans, or listen to what they think about their current business decisions.


 * Lastly, DmC is not a "change to the DMC franchise." It is a wholly different franchise of its own, developed by a completely different developer, with a completely different direction. That's why it was never called "Devil May Cry 5," and has little to nothing to do with the established Devil May Cry series. Derekoe&#124;Hot-blooded God of Guns&#124; 21:05, February 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * Amen Akay4 20:48, March 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Last I checked, they deemed it as a reboot, which is "Not another franchise, just another story". Like what happens at Final Fantasy (Currently at Fabula Nova Crystallis) and what happened to Castlevania (Lords of Darkness). Yes, still reboot. This doesn't change the fact that DmC keeps most (if not all and more) gameplay dynamics. Which is a change for BETTER. I bet many felt "butthurt" when DMC4 was announced, just because the main character was Nero. But the game sucked? HECK NO! It did even a bit better than DMC3! Just stating: be glad they didn't allow DmC to be ruined, like Konami did with Castlevania. -- Tsukiyomaru0 04:09, March 26, 2012 (UTC)

Honest opinions from an underground Devil May Cry fan
I'll be fair: At first, when I heard of the "emo Dante", I was unpleased, and thought it would ruin the franchise. When I heard it was going to be canon, I thought it wasn't bad at all. Then, as I found Capcom deemed this as a "reboot", I feared the worse (See: "Castlevania: Lords of Darkness"). And then... Gameplay video. At that I went: F***ing... EPIC! I'm used to that kind of game, fast-paced, filled to the brims with action puzzles, amazing effects that will even cause some motion sickness, and the previews were more than enough to hit that single spot in me. Simple put... Visual-wise, Dante's best looks were in DMC 3 and 4, but this "new Dante" isn't as bad as people make it to be. Damn, they SHOULD let go of this stupid "Boo-hoo! Dante is emo now! Boycott Crapcom!". Seriously... Capcom made some mistakes... But THIS ain't gonna be one. Tsukiyomaru0 06:03, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * Music to my ears! Er, more like eyes, I guess, since I'm reading this. I, too, went through a range of emotions regarding the new Dante. Right now I'm over all that pouty stuff (though I didn't whine and groan for long, mind you,) and am so stoked for this game! So what if it's not my Dante? He still can be a kick-butt Dante! And if he brings more fans to the series as Capcom hopes, who are we to complain? That just means more Devil Hunters to help us edit! --Anobi 06:45, March 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ha, you kids. I never pouted :p I'm really starting to think my extremely open-mind makes it difficult for me to rage so much about change. As a Final Fantasy fa, I wonder if each installment being different has given me a high tolerance for when things change between each new game. DmC is sure different, but it's not so different to completely destory what Devil May Cry is at its core - fast-paced, combo-heavy gun and sword combat. I'm personally interested in how Ninja Theory's story is going to hold up the DMC concept. Derekoe&#124;Hot-blooded God of Guns&#124; 17:57, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * Hah, you bet. I'm one of those players that plays either for story or for gameplay. If one of the two pleases me, I'm good with it. And you are quite correct: the core remains. At most, it was IMPROVED, addint a wide selection of new effects and perhaps puzzles. -- Tsukiyomaru0 04:00, March 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * You guys are great but have you noticed that they take some of the most interesting things from the other Devil May Crys(Cries?). Someone guiding him through his journey, the involvement of Mundus and defeating him like the original, Young in incarnation like DMC3(also if that theory on the masked guy being Vergil is true), the grappling weapon and different style of Devil Trigger from DMC4, combine this with the fact that he's getting a lot of hate simply because of his appearance(DMC2 was attitude but still) and you get an interesting Reboot to the franchise.
 * But it keeps it's own pace to it with all the other things it has going for it. This Dante despite being a reboot is just as cocky as the other(at different ages) but he takes it up to eleven because he's also suppose to be younger. He has the same disdain for demons and it wouldn't surprise me if we see him become more like the original by the end of the game(my theory being that Limbo is the wall between Earth and Hell, demons can show up there and drag others in but can't show up in the real world until Limbo comes crashing down also resulting in Dante becoming more like his progenitor). But yeah you guys are right, its still Devil May Cry but with a shot of young blood and adrenaline. Pulseman21 11:09, June 8, 2012

More DmC chars
Should we already make a page for Mundus,Sparda,Eva and Vergil (DmC versions) EDIT: Also Bob from Raptor Networks Elveonora 21:54, April 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * Do we even know that Vergil and Eva are in this world? I thought I saw something about Mundus, and pretty sure Sparda's around, but far as I know, Eva and Vergil aren't in the picture. And this Dante being half angel, I wouldn't think Eva is likely to show up. Theena 23:45, April 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, to be fair, it's sorta safe to assume that "Eva" will still be Dante's mother. She just won't be a human anymore. It's pretty easy to modify the background of a character who didn't have much going for her anyway :p As for Vergil though, we have no inclination that the unspecified voice mentioning Mundus is indeed is Vergil. He could just as easily be Enzo, or an entirely new character like Kat is. Derekoe&#124;Hot-blooded God of Guns&#124; 00:09, April 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * I didn't know Vergil was a theory for the Voice, actually. Sounds interesting. If it IS him, I'll want to know what they did to his character design, but like you said, it might be anyone. ^,...,^ 00:20, April 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * While Sparda and Mundus have been mentioned by name, Eva and Vergil I think are still speculation. Plus at this time there isn't really any information other then brief name mentions for Sparda and Mundus. So until a time where the information is available it maybe best to hold off creating those new pages. Just my two cents -=X Zero X=- 01:11, April 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * Agreed. ^,...,^ 01:52, April 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * Mundus and Sparda are confirmed and I'm sure I read about Eva officially somewhere.
 * Also there's the leak which most of it has stuff mentioned before the official reveal and it turned true: http://devilmaycry.org/community/threads/so-this-guy-at-4chan-claims-he-tested-the-game.10604/
 * Elveonora 20:46, April 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * Sparda and Mundus as I have said have been mentioned by name. There is no other information regarding them. So creating a page just for a name at this time seems a little silly to me.
 * As for the Leak take it with a grain of salt. While some information looks correct until stated official it could all be false. -=X Zero X=- 21:57, April 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * Some things from the leak were confirmed just recently. As the magic sprays among otherElveonora 22:15, April 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * I wouldn't readily believe any of that "leaked" info, considering most of it is all things that I could easily extrapolate from all the videos we have seen myself..Unless info comes from an actual credible source, we can't put it up here. Not to mention that a tester isn't just testing through entire game. Testers aren't even playing the game. They are going through one level over and over and over again trying to find bugs and break the game. Testers aren't there to enjoy the game, and it's one of the main misconceptions about the job :p Derekoe&#124;Hot-blooded God of Guns&#124; 01:58, April 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * The tester in the leak mentions white wig with "not in a million years", it was confirmed.
 * He says that the girl Kat is a psychic and uses magic sprays, confirmed by Tameem recently.
 * He mentions that after the church part, he meets up with Kat, confirmed.
 * He mentions no lock-on, confirmed
 * Elveonora 15:05, April 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * Where is it ever confirmed about a wig and his comment? When did Tameem say Kat uses magic spraypaint? As for the last two, we can easily extraploate that information from the videos they revealed - videos revealed at the same time this "tester" started leaking info. We need sources in order to make it all reliable information, not just some anonymous guy on one of the least reliable websites on the internet. Just saying "it's confirmed" doesn't do the trick. It's "confirmed" when someone actually has a source/info to back it up. I don't mean to sound like a dickhole or anything, I really don't, we just really need actual proof, like an interview :S Derekoe&#124;Hot-blooded God of Guns&#124; 17:32, April 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gametrailers.com%2Fvideo%2Fepisode-204-invisible-walls%2F729198%23_text&h=EAQEFuHdo 33:40 for white wig not in a million years
 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRukg6ngKdM&t=1m57s
 * Elveonora 22:51, April 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * See, that's different. This is information we can actually use. However, that doesn't mean anything towards the "tester's" reliability, they could have easily gotten their information from those videos as well, along with whatever they might be pulling out of their butt. We can't put Vergil down yet, though. We need a difinitive source we can link back to. Derekoe&#124;Hot-blooded God of Guns&#124; 00:46, April 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * The leak came weeks before the videos "_"Elveonora 01:06, April 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * So can we already make pages for Mundus (DmC) and Vergil (DmC) ?Elveonora 15:42, June 5, 2012 (UTC)

Vandalism
Hello everyone,

I was just passing by and... there's a really huge case of vandalism on the main page... and when you're in search for informations on a game, it's annoying. And the vandal seems sly enough to do many edits in a row to prevent from getting everything back easily...

I hope you'll noticed that as soon as possible and get the page back to health.

Hitsuji Mamoru (talk) 20:17, August 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for alert, but, in case you wondered, it is too small to call it "sly". You can just as easily undo several edits in a row, even by different users, by going to history, clicking on an old revision, and saving it. But, I protected the page now. I or other admins will lift it a bit later...


 * Dammit, when this game finally comes out? I'm tired of the vandals. I hope the flow will cease once it is actually released. My signature is NOT short! 01:21, August 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * I wonder how many of the people who are raging against it have already pre-ordered it. I wouldn't be surprised if this vandal is one of them. Ohhh the hypocrisy. ^,...,^ (talk) 07:33, August 30, 2012 (UTC)

Re-Editing
I know it's because of vandalism (well, I assumed) but I was just wonering when you guys plan on opening this back to editing (just wanted to add a picture lol). Thanks guys MochiMustache (talk) 16:41, September 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh cool. Looks like we know what shotgun looks like for DmC now :D I actually just found an image for the Samurai Devestator pack as well :p Derekoe&#124;Hot-blooded God of Guns&#124; (talk) 16:52, September 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah teamwork! I like the samurai pack better than the bone, it makes the scythe and shotgun look better in my opinion. I guess I'll just have to be content with buying it when it comes out without any extra goodies. MochiMustache (talk) 16:55, September 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * Unlocked it. My signature is NOT short! 17:22, September 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks :)MochiMustache (talk) 17:32, September 2, 2012 (UTC)