Thread:LegionZero/@comment-967403-20170817211636/@comment-45.33.142.20-20170819152021

How is it suggestive in any format if they just say "former god of evil" and just call Mundus a "god"? The fact you use "suggest" puts what you say into speculatory places. Mind you, I don't completely disagree but the fact is that there's nothing definitive other then the guide saying he is a god. The only common thing about it is the fact all characters with a "god" designation within them are in leadership roles.

Regarding that passage, it's still speculation to say their "gods" come from the Demon World. I recognize and understand the conclusion but that's not conclusive within the games. Not to mention that the same passage makes a distinction between the two but noted its similarities. I'm trying to avoid making conclusions not stated. DMC2 came out under a different creative team mind you. I'm pretty sure if we didn't have DMC3, which the latter went deep about the demon realm, we couldn't make that conclusion because we'd REALLY have limited info regarding the Demon World.

Let me reiterate that I agree with your conclusions but DMC is very barebones in story telling and never talked about these points in their games whatsoever. The entire synopsis and Dumary Island just appears behind a instruction manual and is barebones running along with it. We don't see or are told of what people of Vie de Marli really take power from. It's vague.

Your problem with your argument is that it applies to anything. Just because there's a margin for error doesn't mean cast doubt on everything. I mean, developers are just as capable too and even devil may cry itself. I could write a novel about how disappointing the narrative is IMO. But that's a different discussion.

Looking at DMC2 SG, your "proof" is honestly nitpicking at best. Priests can be women in the same way a woman can be a actor or minister. While a female variation of the word exist, priest is also used too. Furthermore, "Vindu Marli" is just translation differences, not an error. I use to know a fair bit of Spanish and I can tell you people will come up with different translations for the same entity. We're dealing with Japanese language, which is complicated translating to English. And even other DMC games has this problem because we're playing a translated game to begin with. If you wanna claim that as a reason, all the games have suffered from mistranslation in various intersections. I'd argue based on descriptions in DMC2 with enemies that the game itself had translation issues.

Regarding our conversations with Mundus and in-game lord regarding gods and Dumary Synopsis, I understand your points truly but DMC never elaborate on the people of Vie de Marli nor what makes a god a true god in this. So I'm just stating what it says and leaving it. Mundus is called a god, Argosax is a god, and Dumary Island worship gods. That is said crystal clear. Regarding them both, I can make a "classification" portion for info boxes and put the God part there. Cause we can say for sure they're classified as Gods! It leaves people to make their own conclusion on its importance and off our hands so we don't have to try and conclude what it means officially.

And regarding the strategy guide, my position is unchanged. I can see where you come from but your reasonings ultimately spill over to casting doubt to anything not DMC game one way or the other and it doesn't prove the DMC2 guide is inaccurate. Your main points are translation issues that is dominant with DMC as it's a Japanese series, the using of "priest" being assumed to be male when it's gender neutral, and something about the Guideposts when they designated Protector/Hunter based on their occupation. Protector is capitalized, meaning it's a occupation/title. Hunter is the same there.