Thread:LegionZero/@comment-967403-20170817211636/@comment-967403-20170818174526


 * Priests are males, so this "all-female clan" as the strategy guide says is incorrect

Based on? You do realize that Priests can also be female right? (http://www.romancatholicwomenpriests.org/) Like there's an actual controversy going on today because women are usually forbade priesthood. But they do exist still. The only members within the game are female not to mention. There's not a single male character in sight affiliated with protecting the land like Lucia and Matier and the strategy guide says that's the case.

You can't just say there HAS to have been male members because of a supposed designation of using the term "Priest" when it can apply to both sexes.


 * Guardian and protector have not been put in uppercase, suggesting that they are not formal names. Guidepost for the Protector wouldnt make sense either because Dante has Guidepost for the Hunter but he is not part of a clan/organization/family that goes by the name/designation "Hunter.

What're you talking about? The "Protector" portion is INDEED capitalize, which would be a title. For this case, the Protectorate. The "Hunter" portion for Dante should be OBVIOUS! He does goes by it's designation, specifically called a "DEVIL HUNTER" for Devil May Cry. So he'd be called a "Hunter" for short.


 * Divine as in holy, good, heavenly. Argosax is referred to as a god in the eyes of cultists.

The instruction manual is not telling it in the eyes of the "cultusts", it's telling you with a perspective you would called third person omniscient point of view. It's literally JUST under "Dumary Synopsis"

Matter of fact, your statement would be untrue also because he's referred to as immortal within the game looking at Arius's comment and that's about it. (If it weren't for the Arcana's thing, you wouldn't have known he was even a "great demon" as it says) In any case, that comes from the instruction manual which uses Gods more then once and didn't offer an ounce in saying that they're simply "viewed" as that. Because that's not even the game they address the "demon worshiped as a god" I saw you were going with this in which will address in my next point.

Here. You can try finding anyone in the game referring to him as a "god" from the bad guy's side. (http://devils-lair.org/dmc2script.txt) although I doubt you will.

And DMC has it's own mythology. Similarly, Soul Eater has character with the power of a god but they're definitely not "holy, good, heavenly" as that. Look at Dragon Ball Super, where they show how Zamasu's power as a god is definitely not taking a holy, divine turn but still consider divine. Or Dragon Ball Xenoverse, where you have the "Demon God Demigra" and his power is outright god but considered dark. Fiction tends to change up ideas of what is "divine". DMC does it too.


 * ''Sparda himself has been called a god and worshiped as such with powers that rival Mundus but the game has made it clear that he is just a very strong demon.

That's true! But we're not talking about Sparda. The information you spoke of is relevant for Devil May Cry 4. This is Devil May Crt 2 and this information is from a time when the Order of the Sword and their "demon as a god worship" did not exist on a narrative point of view simply because the writer who introduced it wasn't there yet to make DMC4.

You're assuming based on what you know from DMC4 that demons that are called gods in any format are just uber-powerful. Except that's original research and there's a reason why you have to be careful with that.

The IM also says gods/deities MORE THEN ONCE. As far as DMC2 was concerned, there are actual gods and deities out there and Argosax is considered one of them. He can be both a demon and with divine nature (a god). To attempt to say it's untrue would paint the IM inaccurate and wipe out the entire lore behind Dumary Island. We can't cherrypick information like that.


 * DMC does have a concept of the divine. God also seems to be more of a rank/status/title given to those who have reached a certain level of strength rather than the species itself. 

Based on? Both Mundus and Argsoax one way or the other have been called gods and it's information suggest is not a "level of strength". They're just called "god" and THAT'S it (and more then once for Mundus). And mind you, this information came with material that debuted WELL before DMC4.


 * When it comes down to it the strategy guide is primarily about how to beat the game, and is not corroborated by any game or from supplemental materials from the devs.

Have you ever owned a MMORPG game guide? The idea that strategy guides can offer in-game lore is not new. And yes, they have most likely worked alongside the developers during it's making. And Capcom advertised the said strategy guide as their official one.


 * Personal Thoughts

Personally, I'm questioning if it's truly the authenticity of the content is a problem or rather it contradicts the various thoughts behind what people thought of DMC2 as a whole because this wiki has used TVTropes, Devil's Lair, and other places as sources but select official strategy guides and instruction manuals present a problem simply because? I mean, nobody questioned the naming such as "Nevan the Lightning Witch" and "Bael and Dagon and the Masters of Soul" for whatever reason. Because now I'm getting to the point where official information that's not hand-given by the games or widely-accepted is blurred because it contradicts a line of thinking.

I know I opt myself for this thing since I tend to build upon things people don't like/don't pay attention to but it really comes off strange when your argument for the guide being "in-accurate" is because they're said "priest" and assuming it must mean men, therefore it can't be "all-female" and that this instance of wrong contributes to it being in-accurate along with this unproven notion that guides are unable to tell in-game lore. While I don't believe a guide is infallible, I'm in no position to question how official it is.