Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26045423-20180927153931/@comment-33329977-20181001145723

LegionZero wrote: Dante Demon Killah wrote:

no one without blood relation can use the full potential (Sanctus against Nero, Arkham, etc) This was stated nowehere ever.

Dante Demon Killah wrote:

Vergil never did that (he didn't had both amulets), if he could, he would have stomp Dante to oblivion in their final fight, besides, using DMC1 Dante in DMC3 we can see that he can use the Force Edge just like Rebellion, including the combos, nothing that Vergil showed in their fight goes further that what we can do with DMC1 Dante Sparda can choose its weilder. It may have just as easily forsaken Vergil for his impure intentions. DMC1 Dante couldnt use moves like Stinger and Round Trip. If you take 4:SE's moveset as canon then Vergil could do WAAYYYY more than Dante ever could with FE

Dante Demon Killah wrote:

Dante might give us more things with this Sword in DMC5 since it will be, apparently, his main weapon in the game, but even without showing anything new, I believe he is the best user, DMC1 don't show much thanks to the game mechanics of that time but we can see that Dante can do everything he can with Rebellion, whichs means...a lot, he can use Sparda with a lot of dexterity and, most importantly, can use it in full power, so my vote goes for him From gameplay Sparda looks like its not much more than a Rebellion. Stinger doesnt even extend the blade into a spear anymore.

1 - Let me correct myself: Only one with Blood Relation to Sparda could acess the full power of The Sword, in fact, only Dante could

2 - 4 SE Vergil moveset it's 100% non canon since in Fortuna he didn't even had Force Edge, and when he had, he didn't had Beowulf. DMC1 Dante skin in DMC3 is basically Dante after the events of the game, and he uses the Force Edge as his standard weapon just like we see him in the beggining of DMC1, and he have, basically, the same moves from Rebellion, which kinda makes sense since they are almost the same (Force Edge in Dormant form)

3 - That's exacly my point, Dante's skills with Rebellion are amazing and anyone in DMC verse has ever won a Sword fight against him besides Vergil, but that is DMC3 Dante who didn't even had the DT, Dante even defeats him in the game later. If Dante can do everything he does with Rebellion using Force Edge (as we see in DMC3) and Sparda (in DMC5), including using it in Full Power (DMC1), so he is the best user, by far