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Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

Speculation with not a single proof. Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

LegionZero wrote: She was holding back, not using super strength, not taking killshots. She knew who Lady was and wasnt trying to kill her. Speculation with not a single proof Trish knew who Lady was because she saw walk in to Devil May Cry and immediately called Dante. Everything after their initial meeting was Trish trolling her. Trish holding back: Trish not taking killshots
 * Trish has super strength, she didnt use it.
 * Trish can add lightning to her melee, she didnt do that either.
 * Trish had Lady on the ground, defenseless and shot her hair.
 * Trish didnt shoot lightning straight at Lady when Lady was going to stab her.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

Her attitude and usage of lighting based attacks on Lady. Also wording like... "You bitch" and trying to beat her to pulp when she was on the ground in the act of rage. Name calling is not indicative of killer intent.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

Once again Legion, you're not making any sense in your sentences. Before you've said that "Superhuman characters cannot hurt Dante " yet Trish is a Superhuman character. Made up your mind or get some sleep. Maybe both. My very first statement on the matter was that characters without superhuman strength, in the context of melee combat, cannot hurt Dante. I slipped up in the second response.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

Pushing someone across the room is not indication of hurting them in DMC universe. Especially since they were paralysed by thunder and couldnt move at all. Look at Beowulf (before loosing eye) punching DMC3 Dante into the ground with even bigger impact than Trish. Speculation as to whether Beowulf hit harder than Trish did

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

It literally did nothing to him and Dante shrugged it off. Here's the same thing. Dante's wounds heal instantly, but that doesnt mean that he is not hurt or effected by attacks. Look at the fights with Vergil, Nelo Angelo, Arkham. No visible injuries yet Vergil beat him into uncounsciousness, Arkham stomped him and Vergil, and Nelo Angelo left him dazed and unable to fight back.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

Trish did not damaged him in any way with her punches, she caught him of guard and landed a few blows on him when he was paralysed. She paralysed him by grabbing force edge and sending electric wave. He was stunned for few seconds. Even you or me, could punch Dante that is not moving due to paralysis and throw him to the ground. Dante was clearly moving between hits after she shocked him. If he was paralyzed in the sense that he could not move at all, then he would have went down after the fist hit, but he stood his ground and cought himself after the first strike.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

If you want an example in which Dante was affected by blows of his opponent in DMC 1, then watch first Nelo Angelo fight. His punches visibly damaged and stunned him, without whole "sneak attack and thunder shock". Dante's behavior and physical reactions to Nelo Angelo's strikes are almost identicle to what happened with Trish. He was grunting, stunned and knocked back by the attacks that landed. Punched and kicked backwards several feet, and was unable to recover fast enough for the next attack.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

She can heal. Yes. She have super strenght. Yes. She can use lighting yes. No one is denying her abilities, and even with them.. It's heavily implied in previously mentioned sources and even in non-canon sources... "Like pachinko games, crossovers, etc.) that both Trish and Lady are equal in strenght. Even if you belive that Trish was stronger, everything seems to retcon it. Pachinko games and crossovers are non-canon.

Lady has shown no feats of strength ever. In fact, in episode 12, a demon yanked Kalina Ann away from her and then picked her up in the air. Lady had to shoot her way out of that situation. She is only able to kill demons is because of her ridiculous arsenal of firearms. There is a reason she almost never engages in melee combat.

As shown from the anime and DMC4, she commonly needs Dante to help her with cases because she isnt able to handle them on her own. Trish has never needed Dante's help with a case

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

Sure, but by slowly standing up from the floor, she tried to calm him down by saying that she's not his enemy. Then she revealed that she looks like his mother. Same thing, ensuring that he wont shoot her. Dante could have pulled the trigger the moment she twitched. He had no reason to hear her out because she just attacked but she got up without a care in the world.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

LegionZero wrote:

The two of them fighting would eventually kill her but a few shots would not. Speculation. Nothing indicates that she would be able to survive few shots. Lady needs whole mags to kill lesser demons.

Also Mundus death beam>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bullets. Surviving the beam means she survives bullets easily.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

As for the headshot, the "mark" was the blood that spurted out from the initial wound, which closed instantly like all his other wound. Dante wipes that blood on the wall in the same scene. Red screen when he got shot is a strong implication that he got hurt. Yes he got hurt. Because the bullet peirced him, which is why needed to heal, the way he heals from anything else in the series that cuts, pierces, slices, cuts, etc etc him. All those other things make him bleed as well.

Even Vergil bled even though he insta-healed from what would have been a bisecting slash from Dante.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

Trish was never trying to kill Lady. Trish doesnt kill humans, at least not humans who arent evil. Lady, being a Devil Hunter, inherently means Trish isnt trying to kill her. We dont have any single info about Trish not killing humans tbh. That's speculation at best. She is one of the good guys. They dont kill humans. Dante wouldnt associate with her if she did.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

Nothing indicates that she's weaker than original timeline Trish. And that's also the fact. Alternate Trish is a completely unknown variable so they are not relevent to this discussion.