User blog comment:CrazyCombo/Why in the name of hell../@comment-1512913-20120706154424/@comment-1164563-20120706224031

Elveonora, no offense taken, because you simply didn't understand. "Simple-minded" =/= "bad", and "serves one purpose" =/= "devoid of other qualities". I never said DMC4 was bad - in fact I never would've dreamt of that (how dare you...). I never said it had no plot, or character development, or drama. I only meant that being awesome is the core - and everything else can be tweaked to any extent for as long as it falls under that one guideline. Simple proof - if it was an incredibly deep game, there would be a lot more articles on this wiki.

In short - how freaking dare you say that I do this out of boredom. I wasted unimaginable amount of time both here, and back-stage, checking stuff, getting stuff, trying to get stuff... Sometimes, huge chunks of time just going nowhere, all because of this wiki. Unlike you who barely edit here at all. Who makes up an excuse that s/he "doesn't know English well enough to write". (You do know it well enough to argue, to have the last word every single time.) My first edit here wasn't very literate either, but I freaking went and edited just cause I wanted to. See for yourself.

Sorry, I slipped. This amount of ignorance is beyond me.

Derekoe, about points 1-4, I wasn't protecting or rebutting the theory, I just listed the hints I remembered off the top of my head. I'm of neutral position myself, actually. Otherwise, agree. Except for 3, which is taken from here:. I didn't mean anything else aside from that line.

Elveonora: 1) Speculation. While the DT scene wouldn't have happened since Dante already has his, it might have happened a myriad of other ways. If developers wanted, they'd shoehorn anything, especially in this series.

2) Pure speculation. We don't know anything about how Nero got his arm. All that we know is that he got is after the incident, which might not be related at all.

And please, don't start debating established facts. Yamato is stated, numerous times, to be a DA, while the process(es) of creating one are never truly established in the series.

3) See my response to Derekoe.

4) Again, speculation. Capcom won't give as anything, so you can state anything.

About the stupid novel - get on with it, we already discussed it and settled on it being semi-canon. If you want to dispute this again, do it elsewhere. It is going off-topic.

"'Actually the game contradicts itself, when Nero came out from the Saviour's 'core' it was without his Blue Rose and Red Queen (and as according to the novel, they have melted) and the game itself supports this ... while in the next scene they are magically back. '"

If you want to list all the contradictions in the DMC series, we can just go on and create a separate article for it. I'm sure that it will rival Dante's article in length.

''"Also according to the development history, Nero was supposed to fight Sanctus with Yamato as a Devil Arm and to awake a "true Devil Trigger"

That explains the plothole about his gun and sword being back, the mission 19 was originally supposed to be different but due to development time and budget, it was changed into that chessboard "puzzle" where you fight already dead bosses (facepalm) "''

Source? Also, mission 19 is series staple. It happened in every other game in the franchise.