Board Thread:DMC5 Spoilers/@comment-3087260-20190313013300/@comment-6769189-20190518170757

Kepekley23 wrote:

And I didn't say he was because of that, neither did I say Argosax was stronger than Mundus. I explicitly told you right off the bat that I believed they were equal. That was to prevent anyone from coming in and saying "Dante beat Argosax easily but struggled with Mundus!!" Kepekley23 wrote:

I said Argosax was equal to Mundus. Please don't strawman.

Kepekley23 wrote:

If I were to judge just based off of the lore itself, disregarding outside stuff, Argosax certainly feels stronger than Mundus. Mundus comes across as the deceiving/smart ruler, while Argosax in my view comes across as a literal embodiment of something primal, a force of nature given life, hence why his "Despair Embodied' name is fitting. After that post seemed a lot like you were saying he was stronger. But ill drop this one. Kepekley23 wrote:

By the way, on the Volume 2 novel, which takes place before the actual DMC2, Dante beat an alternate version of Mundus which was stated to be stronger than the original in base with no effort on his part. Questionable as to whether or not this is canon/in continuity any more.

Kepekley23 wrote:

Except, as stated on the game's files, Sparda came in to help with the task. Even the official Guidebook states on the Lore Entry for both Dante and Lucia's disks that the Protectorate worked together with Sparda to kick the demons out of Dumary Island. The only speculation here is ignoring what's stated by the files. Kepekley23 wrote:

Lost to half-strength Sparda with help from the Vie de Marli clan. The game files said they called Sparda for help and the enemy file said Sparda defeated him.

Guidebooks arent canon.

Kepekley23 wrote:

Sparda certainly defeated Mundus easily, considering Dante beat Mundus with Sparda Trigger from the Sparda Sword, even though the sword doesn't contain all of Sparda's power, as stated on DMC5 - the other swords also have significant portions of his power. So Sparda was significantly more powerful than Mundus. Kepekley23 wrote:

It is stated he split his power into Sparda, Yamato, and Rebellion, so the latter two swords must also have very large portions of his power, and Sparda would have access to both of them considering he fought Argosax a few hundred years before the beginning of the series. DMC3 says that he put the majority of his power into Force Edge. DMC5 doesnt say how much power he put into the other 2 blades.

Kepekley23 wrote:

You could say "raw power isn't everything", but considering DMC1 Dante was significantly less experienced and skilled in combat than Prime Sparda and still easily beat a fully-revived Mundus through mere raw power, that would, if anything, make things worse. Easily? No. Dante took a fair beating in that entire fight.

Kepekley23 wrote:

Berial ruled the Underworld, as stated on the artbook, so Balrog would also have. The artbook says Berial ruled the Fire Hell in the japanese version. Berial's enemy files and Berial himself said he ruled over the Fire Hell. DMC5 promo site said Balrog was King of Fire Hell. Balrog's weapon file says Balrog was king of the Fire Hell and that Berial once ruled there. BtN also says that Balrog only had half of Hell rallying behind him.