Thread:LegionZero/@comment-967403-20190212123425/@comment-967403-20190216210948

I'm going to keep to the "Mannequin and Secretary" argument. If I feel the need to, I'll discuss the other issues in the future at some point. Apologies for slinging out old issues harshly.


 * The game itself addresses them as Secretary in the files so i dont see how it takes the artbook to make the argument valid. It gives a blurb and some backstory in the enemy file and doesn't use the term mannequin to identify its species.

I chose mannequin simply because the main villain of DMC2 said it. In my mind before this came about, "Secretary" being used was just as valid. Not enough to go about changing the page when I already made it though. There can easily be more than one word to describe Lucia's species.

In addition to it being in the game files (making "Secretary" completely viable), the usage of it in this artbook would make me incline to lean on it better than the capitalization argument. Grammatically speaking, you're not supposed to capitalized the word "secretary" even when referring to race (i assume it's to separate from the actual real-world term, despite the fact that it's very probable the secretary demons actually serve Arius's company as that).

I cannot see us discounting a word because it's not capitalized when the DMC series' in-game text, they are seemingly all over the place with this. I've also think (?) caught instances of using "Human world" and "human world" in one of the game's enemy files/or in game text (Since it is a region within DMC universe to separate from the Demon World [which is usually capitalized], you would actually write "Human World"). This series does not always following proper grammar conventions to start with nor are they consistent with naming race with capitalization with in-game text.

Since I am also not the only one to admit that I disagree with your notion [Meshifurai undoed your edit cause of it], I'd like to take Meshifurai's suggestion and see if other people on the wiki agree with either of us or have other thoughts on the matter.


 * Characters have been called a worm, an incomplete being, excrement, a toad, in a similar context the list goes on and on

With the exception of the incomplete being statement (which has been something I've been trying to look at and very much warrants), it would vary though I doubt the ones you give are any indicator of one's race.

On a unrelated note, when does Arkham say that? I've been trying to understand what his character is since he tried a demon ritual, failed, and has a split persona with Jester and is called human in the instruction manual of DMC3. I meant to put in in my last post but i had to redo it three times cause of computer issues.