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Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

LegionZero wrote: Trish knew who Lady was because she saw walk in to Devil May Cry and immediately called Dante. Everything after their initial meeting was Trish trolling her. Headcanon Anime episode 4

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:


 * Trish was "holding back", that's why she shoot at Lady with powered with electricity bullets at the start which Lady had to counter with her own?

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

That's why she shoot with the wave so strong that it destroyed entire building? Yea, no. It didnt destroy the building, it blew hole in the roof. She didnt hit Lady even though she was at point blank range. She was trollong Lady until Dante arrived.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

A motorcycle on average, is 400 lbs. The strongest bone in the human body, on average, needs 160 lbs of pressure to break.
 * Trish "has super strenght"... her biggest lifting strenght feat is the motorbike throw. Nothing above that was ever showed from her. Nothing that would alow her to break Lady in half either.

It really shouldnt take science to deduce that the strength needed to lift small vehicles is more than enough to break bones.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

The lightning didnt hit Lady. She would have been fried if it did. She would have been thrown into ceiling if it did. Her clothes would have been burned off if it did.
 * Trish used lighting on her guns and on Lady when she was on the ground, the power output was so big that it destroyed the roof of the church. It could have easily killed normal human, and she was pointing her hand directly at Lady. You wont tell me that she was just using a beam that was going to destroy the building but not Lady on her way.

We have established that Trish's lightning, at minimum, can blow holes in buildings. Interesting how on the night they first "fought" Trish didnt blow holes in the rooftops Lady was standing on.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

She was waiting for Dante to show up so that he could explain to Lady that Trish isnt a bad guy/enemy.
 * Trish had Lady on the ground... And she indeed shoot her hair. Cockiness, nothing more.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

Speculation as to whether Beowulf hit harder than Trish did.

Based on what it did to the environment. Yes, it's called power-scalling. Accurate power-scaling would be comparing one ground punch to another.

You cant compare the damage done because they were on different surfaces and the attacks werent directed the same way.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

So... by going with that, Lady's bullet did hurt him. Yes. But why does this matter? This wasnt about bullets and guns. This about melee combat.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

After the first hit he took a step back, however he wasnt fighting back or even trying to protect himself. It's the safest option to say, that he simply at that moment couldnt do so due to the lasting effect of paralys that hasnt wore off yet, or Trish attacks were so weak that he simply let her hit himself. Pick your poison ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Or that Trish was giving him a decent challenge. And needed time to recover. It wasnt until she stopped the constant barrage to throw the motorcycle that was able to do anything to defend himself.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

Yea... I am rewatching the whole Nelo Angelo's fight... and Dante is actually trying to fight in there and is loosing. In Trish fight he wasnt even fighting and he still managed to win without much trouble. "Win." Trish and Dante didnt see their fight through to the end. Trish casually and confidently walked around the office despite Dante holding her at gun point, showing that she wasnt afraid for her life.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

They might not be canon.. **Just like DB GT**, however they were made by Capcom and are a clear indication what the creators of the game are thinking about the characters and their power-scalling... Capcom in that case. Not that this is a DB discussion, but GT isnt canon. It doesnt fit in with the DBS timeline

And no crossovers are not valid indicators of anything. They are made by different people for fan service. There is no legitimite powerscaling involved.

The pachinko machines are not canon. They are full of randomness and scenes that dont align with the games.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

I think that you dont get me. I am not saying that Lady is stronger or have a better feats... Trish by far have more haxxes and techniques... Yet based on everything showcased so far, Lady seems to be capable for giving her some troubles and holding her own. The original topic of this debate was whenever Trish can take down bosses on her own without a weapon... And nothing indicates that she can. Lady (with Kalina Ann) has taken down only lesser demons and the same is with Trish. If Lady (who is capable of hurting and fighting off a while against no-weapon Trish) can be compared to Trish (and once a gain a lot of games/spin-offs does that)... then Trish by comprasion to Lady... is not capable of takind down big demons. At least not from what she and Lady has showcased so far. No i dont get you. You agree that Trish has better feats in almost every catagory, and more abilities but suggest that she is equal to Lady because of a fight where Trish was holding back so that she didnt kill Lady.

Trish can casually throw motorcycles, but cant break Lady's bones?

Trish can survive Mundus' death beams but not some bullets?

Trish can smack around Dante, but not Lady?

Lady even says she feels like shes fighting another human, but we know for a fact that Trish's capabilities in strength and durability FAR exceed that of a humans. That is proof she was holding back.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

That death beam that Dante reflected casually with his eyes, without blinking when he was a bit serious? Yea... I dunno. And dont even bring up the whole "Mundus is universal" thingy... The beam that Dante deflected AFTER Sparda gave him power. The beam from a god level character who could only be beaten by power from another god level character.

If you are going to say that bullets=/=laser death beams from god-tiers i dont know what to tell you.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

Thanks for admitting that he got hurt by normal bullet? Never denied that bullets hurt him. They do insignificant damage, but this was never about bullets hurting. I dont know how many times i clarified that humans cant hurt Dante in melee combat.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

That's also headcanon. There has been never stated a single thing about Dante not killing humans. Anime episode 1

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

If anything Lady in DMC 3 mentioned that there are humans worse then devils. That doesnt mean they kill humans. Their job is literally to protect humans from demons. Not once did they kill a normal human, regardless of how evil they were.

KingSteel18 wrote:

On topic of what weapons lady and Trish should get I'd say have lady track down Pandora be a one woman army as for Trish I'd say have Nico make gold bracers for Trish to absorber her lightning and make it so she can release it in a super bolt  and deal damage equivalent to Dante's real impact move I dont think humans can adequately weild DA'S