Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-29907776-20180616172333/@comment-6769189-20181201141957

2600:1702:2780:1F30:9DC3:F4EE:DFA3:AE67 wrote: Hmm... I'll take a crack at this.

1. Dante keeps his DA and firearms as trophies. It's always been implied, but Lady flat out states it in DMC4 when she says humans have been hunting DAs, like the ones he has. Sparda is obviously his most powerful trophy DA. So it was focused on. Never stated or implied. The CD Drama that takes place during the anime says that Dante sells them to Enzo. Dante was in possession of 2 Devil Arms when she made thats statement and there is no reason to believe that she was refering to other ones.

Sparda is also not a "trophy." It is one of the most powerful items in the DMCverse and its his by bloodright. Trish primarily uses it but he trusts her to have it for safekeeping.

2600:1702:2780:1F30:9DC3:F4EE:DFA3:AE67 wrote:

2. Force Edge, and Sparda by extension, were created to protect humans. No it wasnt. It was a eapon Sparda had before his revolt.

2600:1702:2780:1F30:9DC3:F4EE:DFA3:AE67 wrote:

Dante said, for whatever reason, it'll also protect Trish when he thought her dead. So he gives it to her. He didnt leave it to "protect". He left it there as symbolic gesture.

2600:1702:2780:1F30:9DC3:F4EE:DFA3:AE67 wrote:

Seeing as she had it in DMC2 when she's unlocked, and prominently uses it after taking it in DMC4 (pretty much everything in the games are canon), then yes. She still has it. Trish's appearance in 2 is non-canon

2600:1702:2780:1F30:9DC3:F4EE:DFA3:AE67 wrote:

3. Sparda created Yamato and Rebellion for his sons, much like Inuyasha's dad made Tetsaiga for him and Tensaiga for Sesshomaru. Sparda did not create Yamato for Vergil. We dont know how Sparda came into possession of Yamato but he had it 2000 years before Vergil was born.

Also Inuyasha's dad didnt make either swords for either son. He had them at least before Inuyashas birth. He chose to pass to them their respective swords to teach them lessons.

2600:1702:2780:1F30:9DC3:F4EE:DFA3:AE67 wrote:

He only used Force Edge in DMC1 as a reminder of Vergil and if his brother ever escaped the Demon World, he'd come for it. You can believe this if you want but i just want to point out that its speculation.

2600:1702:2780:1F30:9DC3:F4EE:DFA3:AE67 wrote:

In the ending scene of DMC3, he even says "They'll be back soon. Very soon." then he mouthes "I hope" because dude loved his brother. This didnt happen.

2600:1702:2780:1F30:9DC3:F4EE:DFA3:AE67 wrote:

After DMC1, Vergil's fate was no longer unknown. So he wanted to put it all behind him. That could be another reason for giving it to Trish. He's practically depressed in DMC2 after having to kill his twin brother. He is just fine in DMC4 which is after 1 and before 2 so this theory doesnt work.

2600:1702:2780:1F30:9DC3:F4EE:DFA3:AE67 wrote:

4. Dante is actually stronger than Sparda at the point of DMC4. So, 4, 2 and 5 he definitely has no need of Sparda. Mundus is still pretty much the most powerful demon he's ever fought, and only time he's needed his father's help. As he's stronger, Rebellion is also stronger than the sword Sparda. Saying Rebellion has no feats is kinda crazy. Speculation

2600:1702:2780:1F30:9DC3:F4EE:DFA3:AE67 wrote:

It was a blood spell Sparda cast that sealed the Demon World, not the sword itself. The sword was used to strengthen the seal

2600:1702:2780:1F30:9DC3:F4EE:DFA3:AE67 wrote:

Rebellion literally overflows with power, capable of firing energy beams in 3, and so saturated in 4 that Dante has to shake it off after combos. In DMC1 Sparda was the same way. Also in 4:SE Sparda does all that and more to a much greater extent.

2600:1702:2780:1F30:9DC3:F4EE:DFA3:AE67 wrote:

Rebellion is also the only weapon capable of Dante focusing his own power through, other than E&I. It also awakened his Devil Trigger after drinking his blood, growing in power. Dante can focus his power into anything. He does it with his shotguns, the grenade launcher in DMC1, Pandora in DMC4, and a motorcycle in the anime.

2600:1702:2780:1F30:9DC3:F4EE:DFA3:AE67 wrote:

5. From the beginning Dante has been using souls to adjust and tweak Devil Arms. No. This was never a thing.

2600:1702:2780:1F30:9DC3:F4EE:DFA3:AE67 wrote:

DMC4 says the souls have to be taken and tempered in order to become DA. The DMC4 novel says this, and it is non-canon. Even if it was, it doesnt say that when someone can choose or customize Devil Arms or forge them into anything different than what they manifest into.

2600:1702:2780:1F30:9DC3:F4EE:DFA3:AE67 wrote:

There is no possible way Nevan, who's been sealed in the demon world for over 2000 years would know what an electric guitar is, let alone how to turn into one. That goes double for Lucifer and ESPECIALLY Pandora. All of this is flatout wrong.
 * in Nevan's chambers there are literal speaker systems on her stage. Being sealed in the tower doesnt mean she has no way of learning of the outside world.
 * Artemis and Nightmare Beta, are demonic firearms. According to the CD Drama demonic firearms have been a thing for a long, long time.
 * Claiming Pandora cant possibly form guns is flatout wrong considering we werent ever told when it became a Devil Arm or whether or not Pandora had been to the human world
 * Why is Lucifer relevant?? It isnt a modern... anything. Its basically a stylized scabbard that makes a buncha swords. Also we werent told when Lucifer became a DA or whether or not he had been to the human world.

2600:1702:2780:1F30:9DC3:F4EE:DFA3:AE67 wrote:

Pandora also suggests that he can bolster the power of the soul used with his own magic, as he easily disposed of all of the brothers with it almost immediately. This claim is based on what exactly? Because Dante was the only shown user so there is nothing to compare Pandora's power to otherwise.