Board Thread:DmC Rebooted/@comment-5647070-20170503021620/@comment-6769189-20170503070257

1. Past: OGDante may have seen his mother die, at best he saw the aftermath. He was then placed in foster homes and chased down by demons repeatedly, at least once they succeeded in destroying his new home, as seen in the anime.

2. Personality: OGDante was definitely the triskter type, he was witty. He playfully taunted his enemies. Watching him was fun because he put on a show. NTDante on the other hand just insulted his enemies just to be mean but thought he was sooooooo cool in doing it. And no it wasn't just the "Fuck you" scenes with Succubus. He calls Barbas a "fucking dick," flips him off, calls the Butcher "fuck nut," Tanks "fatasses" and there is much more, including that God awful provoke Mundus scece, seriously he became a MaserCard commercial. It is not witty banter like OGDante's, it is just him being an asshole but thinking/acting like he is clever. I completely disagree about him being a trickster, he is a bully. There is only a handfull of lines/actions in the game that seem OGDante-like:

The scene where he grabs his coat from the ferris wheel.

"You don't look a day over 12,000"

"You're too clingy"

"You're all mixed up"

"It is eye"

"Your turn Barbie"

"That seemed to drag on forever. church."

Thats about it.

Even the way OGDante hit on women was clever and relevent to the situation he was in(speaking of his interactions with Lady and Nevan). NTDante just makes sex jokes, which may have been funny if he didn't force them in Kats direction when he didn't know her and she clearly was not interested in him. it comes off creepy. NTDante isn't edgy, hes an edge-lord. Nero, i wouldn't say was particularly edgy, but his moments came off much better than NTDantes did.

3. Character development: DMC3 Dante had struggles with himself because demons killed Eva and he himself is half-demon. He rejected his demon half to the point that he denied ever having a father. He had a sense of right and wrong but denied a huge part of who he was and 3 was about him accepting his demon side and legacy that came with being Sparda's son. NTDante, was completely apathetic and then started caring about people because he started caring about   Kat. He never had a problem with who he was until the very end because he had to fight his brother who had not seen for 13 or so years because of his newfound convictions about humans. This makes no sense. Having such strong convictions about humans means that he knows exactly who he is and what is important to him, so much so that he is willing to fight blood to protect them. And Kats line of reassurance and his acceptance of it are fickle at best.

4. Do not equate easy combat with better flow. They are in no way correlated. Color coded enemies is by far one of the most flow-inhibiting parts of the game. The AI is too docile and the lack of lock-on made the game sloppy. Granted some of these things were addressed in the Definitive Edition, but the lack of styles made the game less diverse, and was incredibly limiting. Having an easier entry point is understandable, but at the hardest difficulty it should not still be easy.

5.  Vergil as a character is dumb. He spent so much time and energy trying to defeat Mundus and somehow never mentions to anyone that he plans to take his place. Now this would make sense under most circumstances but when he reveals it at the end, he acts all surprised when Dante and Kat are not cool with that. If that is something he thought was an alright idea it would have come up, if he knew people wouldn’t like it, he should not have been shocked when Kat and Dante were all “WTF” about it.

6. Mundus made no sense as a villain. He rules the world. Through debt. An all-powerful God-like being controlling the world through debt because reasons. Or because he was hungry but that motivation was mentioned once and never touched on again. He didn’t need to go to all the effort to make humans dumb and broke if he was hungry, he could have basically kept a farm and went about ruling as a normal demon king and had all the same benefits. And as an immortal being why does he need an heir? The original Mundus was a bit cliché but he at least made sense in motivation and methodology.