Board Thread:DMC5 Spoilers/@comment-26516813-20190501093045/@comment-1164563-20190501145844

Quotes, Meshi. QUOTES. Otherwise I am just not going to take you seriously.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote: and the ones that show that he doesnt care at all (as Vergil).

Haven't you noticed that Vergil has his head stuck up his ass pride? He'd NEVER admit to a weakness aloud, and "caring" is a weakness.

Which is why the game gives exactly one moment of contemplation he does in a private moment:


 * Vergil: That day, if our positions switched... Would our fates be different? Would I have your life, and you mine?

Notice how he says it. He envies Dante, who has all those things he lost in pursuit of power.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote: Even after he was merged into Vergil he decided to fight with Dante instead of cutting down the tree that was still destroying the city and killing innocent people.

Haven't you noticed that Vergil has his head stuck up his pride? He doesn't even want that anymore. He flips off Dante the first time under the pretense that defeating you like this has no meaning. He really doesn't look all that into it by the time Dante finds him the second time either.

If you are so stuck up up your pride like Vergil is, of course you would continue even if on some level you realizes it's all useless, because people are stupid like that. It's called inertia.

Notice how when Nero provides Vergil with an escape hatch, a way to escape his self-set purpose of defeating Dante without backing off and harming his precious pride, he takes it immediately under a bullshit excuse.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote: He only agreed to do it, after he lost to Nero and had not many options left.

Addressed ^

Meshifuari Arimota wrote: He then directly stated that Nero means nothing to him during Mission 19 (You can say that he was lying, sure, but I can as well say that he was telling the truth based on the examples provided below in my comment).

This is a very weird quote, and I am not the only one who says so. I can only interpret it as Vergil automatically brushing off Dante's taunting, only to double-take on it once there is a pause in the fight.


 * Vergil: Nero is my son?

He sounds like it's news to him, dammit! How could he say he doesn't care about his son and mean it if he didn't even know he had one!

Meshifuari Arimota wrote: In the chapter 1 (not 0) of Visions of V, V directly states that the only thing he regrets after attaing "heart" is the fact that he is powerless and that he's going to die.

Quotes, Meshi, QUOTES.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote: He then makes a contract with Griffon just to survive. "Not fix his wrongs" or anything like that.

QUOTES. Which I doubt you will find because the manga didn't even get that far yet. The last chapter stopped on Griffon proposing the contract, not even V agreeing to it.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote: He's pursuing powers (chapter 0) and is willing to send Nero to fight just for the kid to die, so he can defeat Urizen (and absorb him).

QUOTES
Meshifuari Arimota wrote: In the game (cant recall which mission I think it was the one with demon sword sparda) V also states that splitting was a mistake.

QUO-

Meshifuari Arimota wrote: After fusion he never truly apologised and never gave an impression of a person with regrets regarding his previous, horrible actions.

Because Vergil is so stuck up his pride he would never apologize dammit! He doesn't give off that impression of having regrets because he has a need to keep up the stupid facade even when everything is already over.

Which is why V is a better character than Vergil. V doesn't have that inordinate amount of pride. He actually talks about stuff, and it is awesome, and I will miss him.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote: That's my take on his persona.

And no offense, but you'd be completely wrong. I spend a stupidly inordinate amount of time analyzing Vergil's character and going over every single line he ever said on-screen, because I happen to be a fanfic writer, and I like to keep my characters as close to canon as I can.

I also happen to have met some people IRL who are very similar to Vergil, so I have a good guess at what motivates people like him.

But somehow, I feel like we will end up agreeing to disagree.