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Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

LegionZero wrote: Anime episode 4

Trish saw her from the building, she did not knew a thing about her. There was no way for her to know what Lady was capable of. She only saw her taking down on a motorbike, yet she started the whole thing by Firing Lighting at her... Lighting! We all know how fast this thing is. During their night time confrontation, there is no proof that those were kill shots. Its likely they werent since Trish doesnt kill humans. She had a plethora of opportunities to kill Lady and she didnt. Sje also watched Lady take down 3 demons so she had a decent idea what Lady is capable of.
 * She could have fired a continuous stream of lightning
 * She could have blown up the motorcycle next to Lady
 * She could have destroyed the building with Lady inside,
 * She could have shot Lady in the back/electrocuted her/thrown her off the roof but instead disarmed her.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

"She didnt hit Lady even though she was at point blank range." That whole action didnt made sense from a logical point of view. It does make sense because Trish was waiting for Dante to show up and explain who she was to Lady. Trish complains that Dante was late.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

Either Lady have superhuman durability... Shown not to be the case more than once.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

Trish possesed ability for her lighting to ignore humans and just harm "objects (since the roof was destroyed and Lady was in front of her)"... or the anime have a lot of stupidy in it. Or the fact that Trish wasnt trying to kill Lady so she intentionally missed. Trish called Dante after her forst confrontation with Lady and knew who she was and wasnt trying to kill her.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

You say that but Trish "who was capable of lifting small vehicle" wasnt capable of breaking Lady like a "twig"... Even if you say that she was "holding back"... Holding back means not using the full extent of one's capabilities

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

Trish was barely able to HOLD V in DMC 5. V! And when she was holding him and preventing him from falling into the ground (And dying) she was struggling a lot. She made groans as if it were causing her problems. She was struggling to ground herself properly to pull him up do to the earthquake happening aroumd them.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

Trish is bad at strategy ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ We have also established that the whole scene with roof-blowing and Lady standing in the point blank range doesnt make any sense. Trish doesnt have a single way (as we are aware) in which her lighting could somehow avoid Lady (that stands in front of her) yet destroy the roof. We also know that Trish was firing bullets powered up with lighting and lighting waves at Lady during the first night, without knowing what Lady was fully capable of. Lady managed to dodge it. So either Trish lighting is super slow, or Lady have superhuman reflex and speed. Its called not shooting straight at Lady... her aint doesnt need to be off by miles to not hit Lady.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

Any quote from Trish that states that? Watch episode 4 when Dante shows up to the church. There is an entire 2.5 mins of exposition.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

You've stated at the start that the bullets cant hurt Dante, so I am clarifying things. Never said that. But due please try and quote where i did.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

"Showing that she wasnt afraid for her life." It is your speculation. If you believe casually walking around when at gunpoint doesnt mean that someone isnt afraid i dont know what to tell you.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

The fact is that Dante had her on the ground on point-blank range and she had to say that she's not his enemy. The fact is she is a demon who knows Dante's "secret mission" who just elctrocuted the crap out of him, stabbed him, and threw a motorcycle at him. He had no reason to believe that she wasnt an enemy and could have killed her halfway through her sentence. A sentence that she didnt start until after she was up and moving and someone who Dante still had more than valid reasons not to trust and to kill on the spot.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

True, yet at the same time, they are sticking to certain facts.. regarding series. The pachinko machines are incredibly loose retellings.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

It's more or so grounded in the newest games/anime/books/manga. Mine (and many others people in the fandom) opinion about Trish has been strongly influenced by them. More grounded? Things look more realistic sure but the feats and whatnot are just as over-the-top as before.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

Right now we see her as someone who is not just.. not strong. Dont get me wrong, she can take down a few lesser demons, but that's it. We? You are the only person ive seen legitimitely argue that Trish is equal to Lady.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

As a reason of my statement I will use example of Cavaliere Angelo on Elder Greyon. She was easily defeated by the weakest protagoinst (V), who also stated that he cant beat Malphas and Gilgamesh. Meaning? Malphas and Gilgamesh > Cavaliere (and therefore Trish). V defeated Geryon. Cavaliere didnt fight using all of his techniques and abilities. V collapsed right after. His fight with Geryon.

V said Gilgamesh was a little more than he could take on "right now." What did he just do? Spend a lot of energy fighting Niddgog. Griffon was surprised that V was choosing not to fight Gilgamesh.

Griffon called Malphas "more trouble" when V was healthy. It wasnt until he was weaker and dying that he was unable to fight Malphas.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

Before you say that Cavaliere is not Trish.. and is not on the same spectrum of power... Even Dante talks to Cavaliere and points out that it is indeed Trish. ("This clothes doesnt suit you" "I forgot how scary you are when you get angry") He even comments that she doesnt stand a chance against him. Why am I bringing this up? To solidify my remark that Trish wouldnt stand a chance against a lot of bosses. Because Cavaliere cant beat Dante, Trish cant be any bosses? Last i check only God-tiers stood a chance against Dante in 5.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

Or a proof that Trish is indeed not that powerful and even some humans can get to that level. Except we know from numerous instances that Trish more powerful than humans in every aspect. Ive already explained she wasnt fighting to kill Lady, just stall for Dante to arrive.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

Considering how she barely surived that ONE shoot and a single bullet can wound her as well.. It's safe to assume that few bullets would be able to kill her. Watch lesser demons survive hailstorms of bullets in the anime and games. Trish is more powerful that lesser demons.

Comparing bullets to Mundus' attacks is absurd

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

Or.. DMC3 Vergil.. if he wasnt tired from Dante fight. Gods in DMC arent really that strong. Mundus hadnt fully recovered at that time. BTN clarified that.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

DMC 2. Dante was going for the kill on Arius when he was still a human. The man who was wellversed in the black arts, had demonic power, killed people, attempting to become a fullblown demon, and almost opened the gate to hell? He was far from a normal human.

Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

He hangs out with Lady that killed yet another human, her father. The man who was wellversed in the black arts, had demonic power, killed people, attempting/attempted/succeeded in becoming a fullblown demon, and opened the gate to hell? He was far from a normal human.