Board Thread:DMC5 Spoilers/@comment-3087260-20190313013300/@comment-30287552-20190518105540

> '''It didnt say that Argosax was equal to Mundus. It is said that Argosax strength rivals Mundus, which doesnt necessarily mean equal to.'''

No, the original Japanese text says he is equal, which is even on Argosax's page in the wiki.

ムンドゥスと同等の力を持つ魔界の覇王 (Demon King with power equal to Mundus)

> '''Yes Dante is stronger and more experienced/skilled. This doesnt mean that Argosax was stronger than Mundus.'''

And I didn't say he was because of that. That was to prevent anyone from coming in and saying "Dante beat Argosax easily but struggled with Mundus!!"

> '''A lot of speculation. There is no evidence that the clan knew how to defeat Argosax or that they were of any help to Sparda. There is no evidence that Sparda easily fought the army of Hell.'''

Except, as stated on the game's files, Sparda came in to help with the task. Even the Bradygames Guidebook states that they worked together with Sparda. The only speculation here is ignoring what's stated by the files.

Sparda certainly defeated Mundus easily, considering Dante beat Mundus with Sparda Trigger from the Sparda Sword, even though the sword doesn't contain all of Sparda's power, as stated on DMC5 - the other swords also have significant portions of his power. So Sparda was significantly more powerful than Mundus.

> Sparda gave up more than half his power after Mundus.

It is stated he split his power into Yamato, Rebellion and Sparda, so the other swords must also have very large portions of his power, and Sparda would have access to both of them considering he fought Argosax a few hundred years before the beginning of the series.

> How is Argosax stronger if he lost to less than half strength Sparda?

Lost to half-strength Sparda with help from the Vie de Marli clan.

> If Argosax was stronger than Mundus Urizen would be compared to him since Urizen is supposed to be stronger than everyone before him.

I said Argosax was equal to Mundus. Please don't strawman.

> '''Balrog only ruled the Fire Hell. He backed down after realizing that Dante defeated Mundus and Argosax, not just Argosax.'''

Berial ruled the Underworld, as stated on the artbook, so Balrog would also have.