Thread:JayAaerow/@comment-134861-20180906125341/@comment-134861-20180907205644

My main concern is that presenting it in the way it's currently presented implies that that's how the setting actually works, like Dante would tell someone "I used my <> to pick up that boulder." When...I mean, yes, he is stronger than a human, but the setting doesn't define it in those terms. It's not like Bleach, Naruto, or Marvel where you're going to see someone say "okay, this guy has this power which does this". What it *does* have are the various techniques associated with weapons, and those are more in line with how the setting quantizes things.

Something can be by presentation superhuman, but at the same time not Superhuman. The capitalization implies a proper noun, as in, a specifically defined relevant concept. And the delineation between "powers" and "abilities" isn't one that's coming from within the setting itself. That's an arbitrary distinction that the editors are placing on the setting.

"Summoned Swords is listed as an ability because they arent weapons like standard guns and swords. They are made from Vergil's/Nero's energy and are a unique form of energy manipulation not used by other characters."

Except that the games do list them as weapons. Just like the Yamato is a weapon for Nero, even though it's incorporeal.

"The act of demonic energy manipulation is found across descriptions of many techniques like Air Hike, Charge shots, Summoned Swords, and a couple other ones. Dante once channeled his energy into a motorcycle in the anime."

The descriptions just say "magical energy", in all but DMC4SE Summoned Swords (which says "Created from demonic power", not even calling them energy constructs -- closest is them being "phantom" or "summoned"). They straight up do not say "demonic energy manipulation".

I'd have a lot less of a problem with this if it was (1) much more focused on quoting from sources directly, (2) made it clear the claims are more tentative for stuff based on interpreting a cutscene. and being very careful about claiming that something is a universal, genericized ability rather than something specific to that context, (3) using phrasing like "Superhuman strength" (noncapitalized), or even better "Superhuman physical prowess" and combining all of those "feats", (4) not using "feat" language at all, and (5) not splitting "powers" and "abilities".

I can live with it being in a bulleted list, but it just leans way too much towards a DnD character sheet expy of the characters than an actual in-universe description.