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Split the article?

This page is getting awefully bloated with background and history. I think it may be wise to split off much of the storyline stuff either onto its own page or to multiple story pages for each of the games. That way, we can focus on Dante, things like personality and relationships, and not the events in the games/media. --Anobi 03:39, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

Whats the connection between Dante and Dante Alligheri?

Whats the reference to Dante Alligheri' s Divine comedy?

Well fist off there is his name "Dante" taken from him, then there is the color red. Dante Alighieri was often depicted wearing red in paintings of him. In the Divine Comedy, Dante was lead by the famous poet Virgil through the different levels of Hell to get to his personal salvation, Beatrice, and get to Heaven or Paradise. Dante (the game one) obviously has a brother named Vergil (who wears blue much like Virgil in paintings) who fight off demons of Hell, and Trish is similar to Beatrice (Trish being a nickname for Beatrice). I beleive I managed to hit all the points of reference, I might be missing some though. --CLARKMASTER! 18:28, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

What Order?

What order does the Devil May Cry Series take place? I just saw the Dante page and it went Devil May Cry3, and Devil May Cry, Then Devil May Cry 4, and finally Devil May Cry 2, is the order?William J. Hawkins 20:58, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

Yup, that's the order. It's wonky, but that's it :p 184.59.216.168 21:26, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

Exact Heights

I've noticed that some user(s) (I haven't been keeping track,) have been adding exact height descriptions to the characters, not just the D-man, here. It's a great thing to have if they are true, but I don't remember reading anything about exact heights. Can we dig up some sources on these, and place them in reference tags? --Anobi (talk) 18:52, November 21, 2012 (UTC)

I've actually been wondering about this. Not sure how much this helps, but in MVC3, Dante is slightly shorter then Deadpool. Who in the comics is officially listed as 6'2". Just play the game, go into training mode, have Dante and Deadpool walk right up to eachother, and you'll notice even when Deadpool's feet are on the ground he's a tad taller then Dante. So I'd put Dante at 6'-6'1", if anyone else has anything to add to that, feel free   

Not really helpful, since that's non-canon.(ಠ_ೃ) Bully! 01:44, March 7, 2013 (UTC)

That doesn't mean anything. All the other characters sizes seemed right. It didn't look like Dante was any taller or shorter then he is in the actual games.

On the completely different engine for a non-canon game, with a completely different setting and thus no common frame of reference to base it on, it "didn't look like he was any taller or shorter"? Really?(ಠ_ೃ) Bully! 03:35, March 7, 2013 (UTC)

they probably use this chart http://postfiles6.naver.net/data32/2008/3/10/37/%C5%A9%B1%E2%BA%AF%C8%AF1_dmc4wp6full_phs92450.jpg?type=w2 ~~LegionZero~~ 1:41, March 7, 2013

That's not a public file, buddy.(ಠ_ೃ) Bully! 01:31, March 8, 2013 (UTC)

Isn't Devil May Cry 4 actually the last game in the story's chronology and not DMC2? Source is this http://www.g4tv.com/videos/19837/hands-on-devil-may-cry-4/#video-26467. Even the DMC4 character designer said he wanted Dante to look older than in previous games and make a bigger contrast with Nero.

It is now, DMC2 was the last game to take place, but they've retconned it to be set before DMC4 now. Anyway, I did find this https://66.media.tumblr.com/ad650a1faf0df12890233da4bcb1108f/tumblr_inline_p5bemy0Vjv1t43zu1_1280.jpg Seems to be from the anime, it shows Dante is about 190 cm (roughly 6'3") maybe it should be mentioned? AgentRedgrave (talk) 21:47, February 17, 2019 (UTC)

questions

hay um i was wondering what's dante's last name?

Luesendie.mccomis (talk) 11:19, August 16, 2013 (UTC)

Dante and Vergil's last name has never been stated, thus; there is no correct last name for them. Fans tend to give them the surname "Sparda" out of respect for their father. Also, in DMC1, Mundus says, "Again, I must face a Sparda." While not conclusive (or even very convincing) evidence, this does give some justification for calling him "Dante Sparda." After all; Mundus could simply be referring to Dante as the "Son of Sparda" rather than by Dante's actual surname. Anyway; sorry I can't be more help! -- Anobi (talk) 21:46, August 17, 2013 (UTC)

==About killing humans...==

It was never was said Dante refused to kill humans. If it was said then it's a lie. Dante, in DMC1 novel, killings humans , not because they were good or evil, but because they were his rivals.In fact, he is a bad exorcist, since it seems everytime someone is possessed( willingly or not), that person ends killed by Dante.

He doesn't care more about humans than killing demons.

Age?

Is Dante's age ever mentioned in any media?

Personality Change and age?

Why is Dante so Darker in Appearance and Personality in Devil May Cry 2? Did something Tragic Happen some time after Devil May Cry 4?(SPARDA) in the begining of the series, have everyone noticed that Dante seems to resent his father, when he and virgil fought for the first time and mentioned their father, Dante boldly stated he had no father. i suppose Dante was intially ashamed of his demon heiratage, because of his mother's death, but virgil intially embraced his demon heirtage and wanted more power because he felt gulity for failing to protect their mother. what do you guys and gals think and also how old is Dante in devil may cry 2? (SPAR) 3:26PM, FEBURARY, 10, 2014

Very very Dante. AH HA!!! XDDDDD Liam Bain 19:58, April 25, 2014 (UTC)

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Rank?

Should we give Dante the rank of God since he has defeated 3 of them. One of them being stronger than the other 2 combined?? LegionZero (talk) 12:35, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

Who was the third demon god stronger than the other 2 combined?

And no, we shouldnt. While he is vastly superior... to the demon gods he has faced... that's not how it works. We're simply giving characters the titles already given to them in game/official sources. Not a single official canon source refers to Dante as a God, so we shouldnt either. Meshifuari Arimota (talk) 12:49, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

No. Godhood in the DMC universe doesn't work that way. Evil Tim (talk) 12:53, April 11, 2019 (UT C)

Dante defeated Urizen who one shot- Dante who basically stomped Argosax and then stomped Dante+DS Sparda. And yes, godhood does work that way. From everything we have seen in the series "God"is used to describe how powerful said character is. Sparda, Argosax, and Mundus were described as Gods. Urizen 3's profile said that in order to defeat him one would need the power of God. LegionZero (talk) 18:54, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

No, becoming a god requires you to either join with a giant statue, eat the fruit of the Qliphoth or do whatever the hell Arius was trying to do. Just being powerful doesn't cut it. Evil Tim (talk) 19:33, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

Weren't you the one that wanted to give "the most accurate" and official descriptions? What happened? Let's do this. Find me one official source that refers to Dante as a God.. Not a being with godlike powers, then I will gladly accept your idea. As of right now.. no. Meshifuari Arimota (talk) 19:10, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

Being with god-like power and Gods are the same thing in DMC. Its purely a power thing. I only ask this now because Urizen was a god, then ate the fruit and became even stronger, then became Vergil and became even stronger, and Dante matches him in strength. This is why i didnt want to consider "God" a rank or status. LegionZero (talk) 19:20, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

Dante is just a half-mortal who's really good at his job. Evil Tim (talk) 19:28, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

If by "giving him a rank" you mean "fill out his Titles field in the infobox", then I will confirm, this is not how it works. We only add direct quotes, which are almost always capitalized, found directly in the official material, like library files ("Devil Hunter" for a bunch of characters), enemy cards (e.g. Vergil's "Alpha and Omega"), and other similarly official material. I agree that Dante is functionally a god by now, but until Dante gets a character card directly calling him as such, adios. My signature is NOT short! 20:01, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

We have a field for rank that is seperate from title that has to do with hierarchy. We have to recognize(though i find it questionable) God as a position in the demon hierachy. This[1] is what we settled on the meaning of demon gods in the DMCverse. LegionZero (talk) 20:14, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

"Although some demons are powerful enough to be considered god-like or even mistaken for an actual god such as the likes of Sparda and the Order of the Sword[1], these kinds of demons are explicitly stated to be gods

Dante should not be considered as a god Meshifuari Arimota (talk) 20:20, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

I just clicked the link. What the hell is this. Classic series never used the term Cambion, and I can't recall off the top of my head if reboot did either (but I am rusty on reboot lore). In addition, blood mixes are relevant, but that goes into Species category, not some made up "rank".

More relevantly, "God" is more of a poetic term to refer to demons beings who are so strong they are a cut about the rest. This isn't like military ranks where you can clearly denote who is an enlisted and who is a general, this is the same as calling a great man "a god among men". My signature is NOT short! 20:31, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the edit on the Demons article, Meshifuari Arimota. I didn't even have time to check that it was recent before you undid it, you work quick heh. My signature is NOT short! 20:38, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

No problem. I do have problem with ranking characters as a "gods" due to their power as Legion suggested. I would prefer to give some demon a "god rank" when he was stated to be one. Like Argosax... or Mundus.

If we start giving it to the demons based on their powers then we will have to give it to: Dante, Vergil, Nero, Abigail (since he was as strong as Mundus), Urizen and a lot of different characters... Meshifuari Arimota (talk) 20:50, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

Urizen is stated to be a god. Nero hasnt defeated God tier characters who were at full power. God isn't a species either. Mundus and Urizen werent born that powerful nor did their immense level of power come from being a demon species called "God." Which calls into question the validity of God as any official termonology to begin with. LegionZero (talk) 21:17, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

And suddenly you are making sense Legion. Decide whose side you are on already! :P

But yeah, basically my line of thought. "God" is a poetic term, nothing more. Urizen is not even directly referred to as a god, Nico only says that to take on that down you'd need "the power of a god" - which is clearly just a metaphor for saying "freakin' huge amount of power".

Also, ranks make no sense, and, if that is presently a field in the infobox, can be and should be removed, since there is little canon material to work with there. My signature is NOT short! 21:25, April 11, 2019 (UTC)