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The references to it parodying Fox should be left up because there is way more information that points to it being true than what contradicts it. [[User:Derekoe|Derekoe|Hot-blooded God of Guns|]] ([[User talk:Derekoe|talk]]) 22:33, August 30, 2012 (UTC)
 
The references to it parodying Fox should be left up because there is way more information that points to it being true than what contradicts it. [[User:Derekoe|Derekoe|Hot-blooded God of Guns|]] ([[User talk:Derekoe|talk]]) 22:33, August 30, 2012 (UTC)
   
: I'm not going to argue with you over the parody (you're most likely right), but don't you think you're taking it too far? Exactly how the hell is Barbas a conservative for example? All we've seen him do is lash out at Dante! That's hardly a right wing ideology in itself, or any kind of ideology for that matter.
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:I'm not going to argue with you over the parody (you're most likely right), but don't you think you're taking it too far? Exactly how the hell is Barbas a conservative for example? All we've seen him do is lash out at Dante! That's hardly a right wing ideology in itself, or any kind of ideology for that matter.
   
 
:Following along that line, MSNBC's Hardball is hosted "by a very opinionated, liberal who feels he's always right in whatever he says on his show". Does that somehow make Barbas a liberal?
:: Well, "conservative" just in the way he's talked about values ("Just doin' God's work") and in the way that he depicts Dante in a non-conservative manner, like where Barbas explains Dante's supposed sexual deviancy as completely horrible thing (since sexual deviancy is against conservative values). Being a demon, Barbas is really probably not all that conservative (and probably has little to do with conservative values), but he plays the part to manipulate society.[[User:Derekoe|Derekoe|Hot-blooded God of Guns|]] ([[User talk:Derekoe|talk]]) 01:10, August 31, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
 
::Well, "conservative" just in the way he's talked about values ("Just doin' God's work") and in the way that he depicts Dante in a non-conservative manner, like where Barbas explains Dante's supposed sexual deviancy as completely horrible thing (since sexual deviancy is against conservative values). Being a demon, Barbas is really probably not all that conservative (and probably has little to do with conservative values), but he plays the part to manipulate society.[[User:Derekoe|Derekoe|Hot-blooded God of Guns|]] ([[User talk:Derekoe|talk]]) 01:10, August 31, 2012 (UTC)
: Following along that line, MSNBC's Hardball is hosted "by a very opinionated, liberal who feels he's always right in whatever he says on his show". Does that somehow make Barbas a liberal?
 
   
:: From everything Barbas has said, and what was on their "website," signs don't point to any sort of liberal mindset. However, the parody has less to do with any actual "conservative values," and much more about misinformation and manipulating societal trends, which (despite their conservative bent) Fox News is notorious for, and Raptor is very clearly echoing.[[User:Derekoe|Derekoe|Hot-blooded God of Guns|]] ([[User talk:Derekoe|talk]]) 01:10, August 31, 2012 (UTC)
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::From everything Barbas has said, and what was on their "website," signs don't point to any sort of liberal mindset. However, the parody has less to do with any actual "conservative values," and much more about misinformation and manipulating societal trends, which (despite their conservative bent) Fox News is notorious for, and Raptor is very clearly echoing.[[User:Derekoe|Derekoe|Hot-blooded God of Guns|]] ([[User talk:Derekoe|talk]]) 01:10, August 31, 2012 (UTC)
   
:: (Also - remember to put FOUR of these ~ after your posts, so everyone knows who's talking)
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::(Also - remember to put FOUR of these ~ after your posts, so everyone knows who's talking)
   
 
:::This is exactly the type of political rhetoric we're trying to avoid on the Wiki. Please, please please please, please, do NOT post inflammatory political crap like this on the wiki, Derekoe. Your political views and opinions are your OWN, and should NOT be reflected by this wiki, no matter how right you think you are. We do not allow this kind of debate. We continue to remove the "Background" about RNN being related to Fox because it IS political, and it has already proven itself to be controversial. This wiki is about a game; it is not about taking sides in the political war. (Besides, NT is an European company. Who the hell are they to comment on an American news network?) --[[User:Anobi|Anobi]] ([[w:c:devilmaycry:User talk:Anobi|talk]]) 01:18, August 31, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::This is exactly the type of political rhetoric we're trying to avoid on the Wiki. Please, please please please, please, do NOT post inflammatory political crap like this on the wiki, Derekoe. Your political views and opinions are your OWN, and should NOT be reflected by this wiki, no matter how right you think you are. We do not allow this kind of debate. We continue to remove the "Background" about RNN being related to Fox because it IS political, and it has already proven itself to be controversial. This wiki is about a game; it is not about taking sides in the political war. (Besides, NT is an European company. Who the hell are they to comment on an American news network?) --[[User:Anobi|Anobi]] ([[w:c:devilmaycry:User talk:Anobi|talk]]) 01:18, August 31, 2012 (UTC)
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::::(Derekoe, PLEASE don't mess up responses like that. Let them be posted chronologically.)
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::::I have little right to participate in discussion, since I'm not American, but I tend to agree with Anobi. Regardless of whether you are right or not, it is a highly controversial topic. If you ''really'' want it included, the only way I see to prevent another edit war is to find some very good sources. Of the "video on Youtube where Tameem says that Raptor = Fox" calibre. If there is even slightest room for any debate, it will devolve into shouting again. <small>[[User:Flia|My signature is]] [[User talk:Flia|NOT short!]]</small> 01:43, August 31, 2012 (UTC)

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What's relevant?

I'm not sure the information on this page contributes meaningfully to the wiki. It seems like we've just cut and pasted the topics from the viral promo site, and there's not much there that actually relates to DmC. Also, people keep wanting to add stuff about Fox News. I don't think it's appropriate to include information about the real-life channel here, either. I'm in favor of shrinking this article severely. --Anobi 22:03, May 24, 2012 (UTC)

The reason the information for the Viral site was added is because Capcom has a Habit of closing the Viral Sites, Trust me they have do it many time before and that Information is lost for good. So to preserve the information from the Viral Site I copied it here.
As for adding information from Fox News, people are just grasping at similarity's between the two stations. They have nothing in common and are in no way tied to each other. -=X Zero X=- 22:09, May 24, 2012 (UTC)
Sorry for the delayed response. I kind of forgot about this. ^_^; While it's nice to know you're concerned about preserving every detail about the game, we don't need to mirror the viral site on the wiki. The purpose of this wiki is to be comprehensive, not exhaustive. The page would do just fine to summarize the purpose of the viral site. --Anobi 04:56, June 7, 2012 (UTC)

Parody

This is to talk the discussion away from an "undoing" war. So far all evidence, from the game itself to what the developers have said, points to the fact that Raptor News Network is a parody of Fox News. Despite there being many different cable news outlets, only one in particular (Fox) is responsible for massive amounts of misinformation, and being hosted by loudmouth conservative. The developers have acknowledged it in all but name itself because they probably don't feel like getting sued by Newscorp. As I said, Raptor is Fox, and Bob Barbas is Bill O'Reilly, and it's painfully obvious if you know anything about the two :/

The references to it parodying Fox should be left up because there is way more information that points to it being true than what contradicts it. Derekoe|Hot-blooded God of Guns| (talk) 22:33, August 30, 2012 (UTC)

I'm not going to argue with you over the parody (you're most likely right), but don't you think you're taking it too far? Exactly how the hell is Barbas a conservative for example? All we've seen him do is lash out at Dante! That's hardly a right wing ideology in itself, or any kind of ideology for that matter.
Following along that line, MSNBC's Hardball is hosted "by a very opinionated, liberal who feels he's always right in whatever he says on his show". Does that somehow make Barbas a liberal?
Well, "conservative" just in the way he's talked about values ("Just doin' God's work") and in the way that he depicts Dante in a non-conservative manner, like where Barbas explains Dante's supposed sexual deviancy as completely horrible thing (since sexual deviancy is against conservative values). Being a demon, Barbas is really probably not all that conservative (and probably has little to do with conservative values), but he plays the part to manipulate society.Derekoe|Hot-blooded God of Guns| (talk) 01:10, August 31, 2012 (UTC)
From everything Barbas has said, and what was on their "website," signs don't point to any sort of liberal mindset. However, the parody has less to do with any actual "conservative values," and much more about misinformation and manipulating societal trends, which (despite their conservative bent) Fox News is notorious for, and Raptor is very clearly echoing.Derekoe|Hot-blooded God of Guns| (talk) 01:10, August 31, 2012 (UTC)
(Also - remember to put FOUR of these ~ after your posts, so everyone knows who's talking)
This is exactly the type of political rhetoric we're trying to avoid on the Wiki. Please, please please please, please, do NOT post inflammatory political crap like this on the wiki, Derekoe. Your political views and opinions are your OWN, and should NOT be reflected by this wiki, no matter how right you think you are. We do not allow this kind of debate. We continue to remove the "Background" about RNN being related to Fox because it IS political, and it has already proven itself to be controversial. This wiki is about a game; it is not about taking sides in the political war. (Besides, NT is an European company. Who the hell are they to comment on an American news network?) --Anobi (talk) 01:18, August 31, 2012 (UTC)
(Derekoe, PLEASE don't mess up responses like that. Let them be posted chronologically.)
I have little right to participate in discussion, since I'm not American, but I tend to agree with Anobi. Regardless of whether you are right or not, it is a highly controversial topic. If you really want it included, the only way I see to prevent another edit war is to find some very good sources. Of the "video on Youtube where Tameem says that Raptor = Fox" calibre. If there is even slightest room for any debate, it will devolve into shouting again. My signature is NOT short! 01:43, August 31, 2012 (UTC)