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  • Do you guys think that a story centered around Sparda would be accepted by fans? Do you prefer it to be a standalone game, a cinematic movie (like the Resident Evil ones), or a manga\graphic novel? IDK coz we only have speculations about the guy based off of in-universe legends. I personally think that the idea is cool and it may even be named Devil May Cry Zero or something. What do you guys think? And what expectations do you have for it if it actualy gets made?

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    • I would picture something like that. Think Big Boss!

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    • I think it's best for it to be an anime series, an OVA or a full length cinematic movie like the Resident Evil (not the Milla Jovovich ones) so it could focus on storytelling and visual awesomeness. It could still pass for a good game though.

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    • Sparda game ftw

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    • Regardless of how it is presented, I'm pretty sure a Sparda story would be pretty cool!

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    • Yes, I would love it to happen. 

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    • So would it be during the Devil Civil War he led or during his time in the human world?

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    • Majority of it should be during his rebellion and then a little bit after like when he met Eva and end with his death.

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    • It'll be easy to do if it's an anime series, a 3 part OVA or a cinematic movie trilogy. If it's a game, would it have 3 phases for a single game, or will it be three separate games?

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    • Id prefer one game but 3 games would rock. The 1st one would be his rebellion and his disappearence from Fortuna, the 2nd would be the battle with Argosax and the 3rd would be him meeting Eva having kids and dying

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    • Nice! I'm confused with DMC2's standing tho. Is it still canon?

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    • No reason to believe its not ATM.

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    • It's entirely possible that DMC5 is set before DMC2. I have this theory that Dante's like that in 2 because all of his associates (Nero, Trish, Lady and Morrison) are dead. At least to me that's what Capcom is building up towards.

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    • Rion Dragonheart wrote: It's entirely possible that DMC5 is set before DMC2. I have this theory that Dante's like that in 2 because all of his associates (Nero, Trish, Lady and Morrison) are dead. At least to me that's what Capcom is building up towards.

      Its not possible that 5 is before 2. It's a fact.

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    • Wait a moment Zero, we dont have any confirmation or not if it takes place before 2. For all we know that it takes place after 4.

      Just leave it to the power of retcon and small hints/mentions and it could turn out to take place after 2. It's been stated that Dante has been missing... For all we know, they can throw (OH kid I was beating this fire demon god in Hell) kinda of thing.

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    • I suppose we should wait and see for that one. BTW, does Capcom have a suggestions page or e-mail? I'd really love it if the Sparda prequel came alive.

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    • Meshifuari Arimota wrote: Wait a moment Zero, we dont have any confirmation or not if it takes place before 2. For all we know that it takes place after 4.

      Just leave it to the power of retcon and small hints/mentions and it could turn out to take place after 2. It's been stated that Dante has been missing... For all we know, they can throw (OH kid I was beating this fire demon god in Hell) kinda of thing.

      It has been confirmed. Twice.

      DMC5 takes place several years after DMC4, not DMC2

      -http://www.devilmaycry5.com/us/

      -Devil May Cry 5 - Gameplay and Interview With Hideaki Itsuno: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n54oejXuYoM


      DMC5 direct sequel to DMC4, not DMC2 Devil May Cry 5 - Gameplay and Interview With Hideaki Itsuno:

      -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n54oejXuYoM

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    • LegionZero wrote:

      Meshifuari Arimota wrote: Wait a moment Zero, we dont have any confirmation or not if it takes place before 2. For all we know that it takes place after 4.

      Just leave it to the power of retcon and small hints/mentions and it could turn out to take place after 2. It's been stated that Dante has been missing... For all we know, they can throw (OH kid I was beating this fire demon god in Hell) kinda of thing.

      It has been confirmed. Twice.

      DMC5 takes place several years after DMC4, not DMC2

      -http://www.devilmaycry5.com/us/

      -Devil May Cry 5 - Gameplay and Interview With Hideaki Itsuno: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n54oejXuYoM


      DMC5 direct sequel to DMC4, not DMC2 Devil May Cry 5 - Gameplay and Interview With Hideaki Itsuno:

      -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n54oejXuYoM

      A bit off-topic now but let me ask this first.


      @Meshi: Isn't the official chronology of games supposed to be DMC3, DMC1, DMC4 then DMC2? The video Zero shared does say that DMC5 happens after DMC4 but none of them ever mention DMC2. What if the game makers decide that DMC5 happened in between DMC4 and DMC2? There's also the possibility they can Retcon DMC2 as non-canon or alt future.


      @ Zero: Oh btw you just posted the same video twice.

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    • @Rion: I had created a long list of all the facts that have been revealed for 5 and multiple facts came from the same source. Sometimes one fact had multiple sources so i had to breakdown my list in such a way that i couldnt put multiple facts together because Fact 1 may have two sources but one source wouldnt apply to Fact 2.

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    • LegionZero wrote:
      @Rion: I had created a long list of all the facts that have been revealed for 5 and multiple facts came from the same source. Sometimes one fact had multiple sources so i had to breakdown my list in such a way that i couldnt put multiple facts together because Fact 1 may have two sources but one source wouldnt apply to Fact 2.

      Oh okay I probably should be keeping a similar list. Btw I noticed how little info has been released about Sparda. We don't even have a personality to go by.

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    • I always wondered what happened to Sparda "wake up for justice "

      Could it be some mission given by Mundus that made him deeply sorry? Could it be when he met Eva?

      A prequel game would be awesome

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    • Rion Dragonheart wrote:

      Oh okay I probably should be keeping a similar list. Btw I noticed how little info has been released about Sparda. We don't even have a personality to go by.

      I might just go and post the list here myself, i would direct you to my fb page that has it already but its a visual eyesore because FB has very little text formatting options.



      Dante Demon Killah wrote:

      I always wondered what happened to Sparda "wake up for justice "

      He literally woke up to justice. He went to bed one night and got up in the morning, had a big bowl of Justice Crispies, and said "man.... Mundus is a dick" XD


      Dante Demon Killah wrote:

      Could it be some mission given by Mundus that made him deeply sorry?

      There is a common theory that Sparda worked for Mundus but the series doesnt support this, in fact it implies that he didn't. He was a swordsman in Hell and at worst, he was indifferent to Mundus's actions until he awoke to justice.

      As of now the series doesnt explicitly deny the possibility that he served Mundus, but it does not support it.

      Dante Demon Killah wrote:

      Could it be when he met Eva?

      A prequel game would be awesome

      This is a common misconception people have. Sparda did NOT awaken to justice because of Eva. He did not meet her until ~2000 years after his revolt. Everything that happened with Eva occurred in modern times.as of DMC4, Dante is only in his late 30's.

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    • LegionZero you keep sending interviews that I've saw and knew about. They're stating that it is a direct sequel to DMC4, however we all know how badly DMC2 turned out to be. Them retconing it in DMC 5 or even mentioning Dante being trapped in hell could be a way to relate DMC2.

      Their statement about it being a direct continuation of DMC 4 could've been made from marketing perspective (due to DMC2 being a badly recived game). It  does not delete the possibility of DMC V begin after DMC2 in any way. I will say more, the action of DMC V might start before the action of DMC 2 (Dante fighting Arius and stuff) but it could end after DMC 2.

      Note: I'm not saying it will happen. I'm just saying that there's a possiblity that DMC 2 will be completly retconed out of existence, or bypased in time by DMC V.

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    • A direct sequal means that it is what happens directly after the game it is the sequal to. Capcom has made it clear that DMC5 is not after 2 and at the moment we have no reason to believe they are not being truthfull.

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    • LegionZero wrote:


      Dante Demon Killah wrote:

      I always wondered what happened to Sparda "wake up for justice "

      He literally woke up to justice. He went to bed one night and got up in the morning, had a big bowl of Justice Crispies, and said "man.... Mundus is a dick" XD

      That is an epic way to 'wake up to justice' lol. Maybe he ate Morals Crispies the next day. It is quite interesting though. I wonder what could change a demon's mind and side with puny humans, especially since they are malevolent in nature.

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    • Probably that humans aren't malevolent in nature?

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    • I don't know. Sounds cool on paper, but the guy is OP as fuck. It would be the same problem with Superman games; just too much power to work with.

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    • Yep

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    • Transmodifier wrote: I don't know. Sounds cool on paper, but the guy is OP as fuck. It would be the same problem with Superman games; just too much power to work with.

      What ?

      Dante in DMC4 and DMC2 already was at least on his father level of power

      - In the anime he defeated Abigail, a rival to the Demon King, with DT

      - In DMC4 he was having a good battle against The Savior who had Sparda Blood (Nero) + Sparda Sword, which results in Sparda's power

      - In DMC2 he defeated Argosax, who Sparda needed help to seal away

      So "power" it's not a problem for a prequel game

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    • DMC4's History of Devil May Cry states that Dante was still trying to live up to Sparda's legacy, implying that he is not as strong as Sparda. The Savior wasn't powered by the Sparda sword, but was controlled by it. Nero, by Sanctus's own admission, did not have as strong a blood link to Sparda as Dante and DMC4 overall shows us that Dante outclasses Nero by miles. Taking on the Savior isn't really a Sparda level feat.

      Abigail was one of the 4 Demon Kings but Sid wasn't noted to have the full extent of Abigails power. We also don't know if the Demon Kings refer to Mundus/Argosax/demon king before Mundus. The anime seems to be set shortly after 1 and Dante couldnt take on Mundus without Spardas power and even then, barely won.

      Defeating Argosax may be the point where Dante surpassed Sparda, but even its questionable if Argosax was as strong as Mundus, seeing as how Mundus was sealed away by Sparda but was still considered the King of Hell while Argosax only conquered a majority of Hell.

      Sparda didnt need help sealing away Argosax.

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    • CeriumEcstatic wrote:

      Rion Dragonheart wrote:

      That is an epic way to 'wake up to justice' lol. Maybe he ate Morals Crispies the next day. It is quite interesting though. I wonder what could change a demon's mind and side with puny humans, especially since they are malevolent in nature.

      It's true that humans generally are malevolent in nature. But not nearly as often as demons. So it isn't hard to guess why a benevolent demon like Sparda would forsake demonkind and side with the humans.
      LegionZero wrote:
      Probably that humans aren't malevolent in nature?

      I didn't mean humans. I meant demons are malevolent by nature and it's a mystery why Sparda suddenly sided with them. I'm pretty sure he didn't start out as benevolent himself and we have nothing to go by to imply that he wasn't evil before he 'woke up to justice.'

      Transmodifier wrote:
      I don't know. Sounds cool on paper, but the guy is OP as fuck. It would be the same problem with Superman games; just too much power to work with.

      The problem with Superman games and Superman in general is he's too OP as fuck since he landed on Earth while the enemies he normally encounters aren't and can be considered cannon fodder to him. You have to resort to extreme PIS or an even absurdly more godlike opponent than him to take him down. With Sparda, since he's probably gonna be seen fighting inside hell itself, we may be treated to a whole host of demons who are actually as strong as or stronger than him that he will be able to fight and somehow manages to defeat. Of course this doesn't affect Sparda's strength level in current lore since if he wins he may either power up by gaining the opponent's power (explaining how he got so strong in the first place) or he will automatically be the benchmark of strength since the stronger demons no longer exist.

      LegionZero wrote:
      DMC4's History of Devil May Cry states that Dante was still trying to live up to Sparda's legacy, implying that he is not as strong as Sparda. The Savior wasn't powered by the Sparda sword, but was controlled by it. Nero, by Sanctus's own admission, did not have as strong a blood link to Sparda as Dante and DMC4 overall shows us that Dante outclasses Nero by miles. Taking on the Savior isn't really a Sparda level feat.

      Abigail was one of the 4 Demon Kings but Sid wasn't noted to have the full extent of Abigails power. We also don't know if the Demon Kings refer to Mundus/Argosax/demon king before Mundus. The anime seems to be set shortly after 1 and Dante couldnt take on Mundus without Spardas power and even then, barely won.

      Defeating Argosax may be the point where Dante surpassed Sparda, but even its questionable if Argosax was as strong as Mundus, seeing as how Mundus was sealed away by Sparda but was still considered the King of Hell while Argosax only conquered a majority of Hell.

      Sparda didnt need help sealing away Argosax.

      From what I know of Sparda has also sealed away the majority (I believed it is termed 'the lion's share') of his power after sealing Mundus away so he probably defeated Argosax in this weakened state.

      Guys this is actually the main reason for me why we need to have a Sparda related book, game or whatever Capcom decides to release. We only go by his established legend and the word of mouth of the demons he supposedly interacted with. What if his sword skills were the only things he had before his rebellion and he became more powerful by killing other demons? What if he wasn't legendary up until he started that rebellion? Why not outright kill Mundus and the other demons he's come up against and he only resorts to sealing most of the time? Lotsa questions. I hope Capcom has some answers.

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    • To my understanding the demons he sealed in Temi-Ni-Gru were meant to be deterents, at least for humans. They are referred to as Gatekeepers.

      As for Mundus, it is entirely possible that even though Sparda was strong enough to win the fight, he wasnt strong enough to go for the kill, which is why Mundus needed to be sealed. I feel like Sparda's power escalation would be much like Dante's in DMC3, where as Sparda makes his way to Mundus, he becomes strong enough to match him.

      From what Modeus said Sparda seemed to be a rather noble dude.

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    • LegionZero wrote:
      To my understanding the demons he sealed in Temi-Ni-Gru were meant to be deterents, at least for humans. They are referred to as Gatekeepers.

      As for Mundus, it is entirely possible that even though Sparda was strong enough to win the fight, he wasnt strong enough to go for the kill, which is why Mundus needed to be sealed. I feel like Sparda's power escalation would be much like Dante's in DMC3, where as Sparda makes his way to Mundus, he becomes strong enough to match him.

      From what Modeus said Sparda seemed to be a rather noble dude.

      I think the demons in the Temi-Ni-Gru were comrades of sorts for him, not enemies, except for probably Beowulf. 

      We can't be sure if Sparda can't or won't go for the kill. He might've been really close to Mundus at one point we don't really know yet. Another point would be the demon generals Phantom and Griffon. Why didn't Sparda kill them? As for power escalation, I agree with you completely and that's exactly what I want to point out.

      As for Modeus, was he referring to the Sparda before or after the rebellion? He may still have done horrible things in the time he was still living in hell. And a demon can be noble (has a sense of honor, doesn't go back at his word, etc.) and be generally evil at the same time. I think they call that being Lawful Evil.

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    • The bios for the gate keepers they were sealed away. IMO that means that they didn't consent. if Beowulf was there, it stands to reason that he would try to attack the other Gatekeepers for working with Sparda since he hates him so much.

      Nothing in the series says that Mundus and Sparda even knew eachother prior to their fight. If they were close Mundus doesn't seem to care much that a close friend betrayed him, he comes off as more pissed that Sparda kicked his ass and stopped his plans and sealed him away.

      Lawful Evil characters tend to use law as a means to an evil end. Or enforce evil law. Sparda can't be both noble and evil, doesn't matter much because I looked through the episode and Modeus didn't say he was noble, but his opposition to the demon world didn't seem out of character from the way his apprentices talked of him. I would peg him as True Neutral until he "awoke to justice" and went Neutral Good

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    • Well according to interviews the new opponent (tree guy) in DMC V is stronger than Mundus, so if Dante will have difficult time against that dude, it will give better understanding of his current power-level.

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    • LegionZero wrote:
      The bios for the gate keepers they were sealed away. IMO that means that they didn't consent. if Beowulf was there, it stands to reason that he would try to attack the other Gatekeepers for working with Sparda since he hates him so much.

      Nothing in the series says that Mundus and Sparda even knew eachother prior to their fight. If they were close Mundus doesn't seem to care much that a close friend betrayed him, he comes off as more pissed that Sparda kicked his ass and stopped his plans and sealed him away.

      Lawful Evil characters tend to use law as a means to an evil end. Or enforce evil law. Sparda can't be both noble and evil, doesn't matter much because I looked through the episode and Modeus didn't say he was noble, but his opposition to the demon world didn't seem out of character from the way his apprentices talked of him. I would peg him as True Neutral until he "awoke to justice" and went Neutral Good

      I know that they were sealed. What I meant was, aside from designating them as Gatekeepers, Sparda probably spared them because he fought alongside them at one point since it was implied that at least Nevan had a flirty love-hate relationship with him. They're not friends but they're also not total enemies. This may also be the reason why Beowulf did not attack them; he probably thought the Gatekeepers weren't really loyal to Sparda.

      As for this, you mentioned it yourself. There's a whole lot of nothing that we can go by on this. Though you make a fair point that Mundus might be mostly royally pissed at him for the defeat, but Mundus is evil and if Sparda thought they were brothers-in-arms at one point, Mundus may very well think he's just one of the many demons beneath him. My point is, all we can do is speculate on this until Capcom decides to fill us in on these gaps, which is why I'm hoping for Sparda material.

      Isn't he Affably Evil...? Haha I'm kidding. Your explanation makes more sense than mine. Though we really wouldn't know until we get more Sparda-centered stuff. :)

      Meshifuari Arimota wrote:
      Well according to interviews the new opponent (tree guy) in DMC V is stronger than Mundus, so if Dante will have difficult time against that dude, it will give better understanding of his current power-level.

      Yeah I think Dante's upper limits haven't been tested yet. I have a feeling Sparda's upper limit is just assumed by other characters but it may not be his actual power limit.

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    • Nevan has a love-hate relationship with everyone. She basically sexes her opponants to death XD

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    • LegionZero wrote:
      Nevan has a love-hate relationship with everyone. She basically sexes her opponants to death XD

      I know, which is why she might've fought alongside Sparda at one point and maybe that was enough for him to spare her and turn her into a Gatekeeper instead of turning her into mincemeat. Maybe all the other Gatekeepers were chosen that way. It can't be disproved because there's literally no material to do it.

      Then there's the thing about Phantom and Griffon. They clearly knew Sparda so it's possible they fought against him. They even speculate that Dante is as powerful as or may be more powerful than Sparda but they aren't really sure. I don't believe Sparda was weaker than these two so he can't finish them off. Did he show mercy? Were they comrades at one point? These are some intereresting questions that can be answered by a game, cinematic movie, anime series or whichever Capcom decides to release as canon.

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    • Phantom and Griffon ckuld have just dipped out after their defeat. They have a habit of doing that. Echidna and Berial did the same to Nero.

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    • LegionZero wrote:
      Phantom and Griffon ckuld have just dipped out after their defeat. They have a habit of doing that. Echidna and Berial did the same to Nero.

      You could say that, but Sparda is way more powerful than Nero. Demons can escape a Demon Hunter at DMC4 Nero's caliber at the time. I don't think they can do that to someone like Sparda unless they're deliberately let go.

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    • Dante was easily stronger than Phantom or Griffin and when they retreated there wasnt much he could do about it

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    • You know Rion... If you think about it, Sparda did sealed most of his powers in Underworld.... So Nero/Dante are stronger than Sparda after he sealed his powers :P 

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    • @Zero: They both still died within the events of DMC1 at the hands of Dante. It still poses the question as to why Sparda never finished them off since he could if he can defeat and seal Mundus.

      @Meshi: Dante may be stronger than sealed Sparda but I think DMC4 Nero isn't.

      I hope DMC5's sales and reception is epic when it comes out. That may be the push we need for Sparda related material or an actual DMC Zero game.

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    • @Rion now the question is, how they compare to 100% Sparda.

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    • I wish we get prequel stories for us to compare.

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    • LegionZero wrote: DMC4's History of Devil May Cry states that Dante was still trying to live up to Sparda's legacy, implying that he is not as strong as Sparda. The Savior wasn't powered by the Sparda sword, but was controlled by it. Nero, by Sanctus's own admission, did not have as strong a blood link to Sparda as Dante and DMC4 overall shows us that Dante outclasses Nero by miles. Taking on the Savior isn't really a Sparda level feat.

      Abigail was one of the 4 Demon Kings but Sid wasn't noted to have the full extent of Abigails power. We also don't know if the Demon Kings refer to Mundus/Argosax/demon king before Mundus. The anime seems to be set shortly after 1 and Dante couldnt take on Mundus without Spardas power and even then, barely won.

      Defeating Argosax may be the point where Dante surpassed Sparda, but even its questionable if Argosax was as strong as Mundus, seeing as how Mundus was sealed away by Sparda but was still considered the King of Hell while Argosax only conquered a majority of Hell.

      Sparda didnt need help sealing away Argosax.

      Didn't that clan in DMC2 helped Sparda against Argosax ? If he sealed away his powers, needing help to defeat a Demon of that level makes sense

      Also:

      "DMC4's History of Devil May Cry states that Dante was still trying to live up to Sparda's legacy, implying that he is not as strong as Sparda."

      Legacy =/= Power

      Sparda had thousands of years to build his own legacy, it is to be expected that even in DMC4, Dante did not have so much history to compare with his father

      But in power they can be comparable, who knows ? Dante already have Sparda Sword that grants him enough power to defeat Mundus, even in DMC1

      So imagine DMC2 Dante + Sparda Sword lol

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    • Dante Demon Killah wrote:

      Didn't that clan in DMC2 helped Sparda against Argosax ? If he sealed away his powers, needing help to defeat a Demon of that level makes sense

      The clan needed Sparda's help. Matier said Sparda did something similar to Dante when Dante went into Hell to fight Argosax.

      Dante Demon Killah wrote: Also:

      "DMC4's History of Devil May Cry states that Dante was still trying to live up to Sparda's legacy, implying that he is not as strong as Sparda."

      Legacy =/= Power

      Sparda had thousands of years to build his own legacy, it is to be expected that even in DMC4, Dante did not have so much history to compare with his father

      Sparda's legacy came from his rebellion and defeating Argosax. He didnt spend 2k years doing more miraculous stuff, he straight up disappeared for a majority of that time and layed low until he died.

      Dante Demon Killah wrote:

      But in power they can be comparable, who knows ? Dante already have Sparda Sword that grants him enough power to defeat Mundus, even in DMC1

      So imagine DMC2 Dante + Sparda Sword lol

      Dante using needing Sparda's power only proves that Dante himself isnt on Sparda's level of power. In fact, even with it he couldnt keep Mundus down and without it, a weakened Mundus was going to kill him.

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    • I think we can all agree that when the boss demons in the previous games say Dante surpasses Sparda, it's heavily implied he just surpasses his sealed state. I personally think that Dante has yet to surpass his father when the LDK is wielding his full dark godly might.

      @LegionZero: It suddenly hit me that Sparda could've fought Mundus first when he rebelled, bypassing Phantom and Griffon; they might've been away on different missions on earth when Mundus was sealed by Sparda. They were probably defeated by Sparda after he sealed the Temen-Ni-Gru, which means he was probably significantly weakened against them already. Since we know some demons stuck around after the Temen-Ni-Gru was sealed, Phantom and Griffon probably stayed on Mallet Island, waiting for an opportunity to create a small demon gate there so they can unseal Mundus and bring demons loyal to him from hell.

      All the more reason to want Sparda centered stories or a Sparda themed prequel game now. Aside from piecing together Sparda's past, the prequel can also flesh out Mundus' character more.

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    • How would you make Sparda the "Big Boss" of DMC?

      How to explore his origins like Big Boss and how he met Eva?

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    • I dont think we'll ever get to explore Sparda's origin tbh. I feel like he will be this Mysterious character to the end of the franchise. It's partially a way of making this character interesting, getting rid of it might hurt the character in a way.

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    • The only way we could get a character to be explored thoroughly is give Capcom enough revenue return for DMC5 that may even surpass their best selling series like Street Fighter, Resident Evil and Monster Hunter. If they don't see the sales potential, they may be unwilling to invest any further. This is what happened to Megaman, tho popular, it just wasn't hitting sales at the time. If DMC5 sells a shit ton of money, then Capcom will be willing to milk that cow dry. They may explore each and every character involved so far to the fullest, like Sparda. Kinda like how Squeenix squeezed the FF7 franchise dry. They even made a full game out of a minor character like Zack Fair because they were banking on sales from the FF7 name.

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    • I love to see young Sparda and young Eva. Maybe around 5 games it will become real!

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    • @rion i would argue Zack was a fairly important character. Cloud only thought he was Zack for a majority of FF7

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    • Rion Dragonheart wrote:
      I personally think that Dante has yet to surpass his father when the LDK is wielding his full dark godly might.
      LegionZero wrote:
      A direct sequal means that it is what happens directly after the game it is the sequal to. Capcom has made it clear that DMC5 is not after 2 

      Since we already know DMC 5 is after DMC 2, we will be able to compare Sparda's (Devil Arm Power) to Rebellion and tell what's the true gap between Dante and Sparda now.

      Since ya know... Rebellion is as strong as Dante and Sparda's Devil Arm possess entire of the Sparda's strenght. 

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    • Sparda's sword had a majority of his strength, not all of it

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    • Maybe the title of Sparda's legacy will become  Devil's Never Cry - DNC series. That would be awesome since Sparda has a stoic and same personality as his son Dante.

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    • If we were to go with new Devil May Cry series (Let's say throwing out old characters, making new ones in the same universe) then they should go with Devil Must Cry.  It's a neat reference to the first game as well as a way to keep DMC shortcut.

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    • Devil's Never Cry

      Devil's Must Cry 



      Oh my goodness, those titles are awesome to watch and play!!

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    • Considering like half the demons in DMC have the tag somewhere in their history "Got their ass kicked by Sparda" I think it'd be fun to have his history, if just a brief summary in a game manual somewhere.

      Also something nobody here seems to have pointed out, the Sparda sword contains only most of Sparda's power, not all of it. Can't have put all of it in there, otherwise he wouldn't have been able to take on Argosax. And we know Argosax was a lot more recent since Matier was alive when it happened and as far as we know she's pure human, while the whole business with Mundus and sealing the Temen-ni-gru was two millenia earlier. If the sparda sword contained *all* of Sparda's demonic power, he probably would have died of old age long before facing Argosax. That means when Dante used it to defeat Mundus he was not using 100% of Sparda's power, just a majority. Even with that boost, Dante and Mundus were about easily matched. So, baseline, Sparda at his absolute 100% far eclipses Dante as of DMC 1, probably still a bit stronger even with the Sparda sword's power. Considering Dante at his strongest easily accomplished a task his father did with most of his power sealed, we don't really have any evidence Dante has surpassed Sparda besides a passing comment from Griffon, who we don't even know Sparda concretely fought, and who was very rapidly dying at the time so I can't imagine he was in his right mind. 

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    • At least, he is more competent and maybe more sarcastic and talkative individual as well. 

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    • Conflict1914 I have to agree with you on the Sparda's powers and Argosax.

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    • Conflict: Sparda wouldnt have died of old age anyways. A demons strength doesnt correlate to their longevity. Matier is not human, shes a hybrid.

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    • Devil May Cry: Origins. 

      or

      Devil May Cry: The Legend of Sparda. 

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    • Callum both names are nice. I like them. Tho making a game about Sparda could be a bit hard... You would had to place him in a different time periods:

      -Mundus fight (2000 years ago)

      -Fortuna Saga (??? years ago)

      -Argosax Saga (??? years ago)

      -Probably a lot of others mini sagas that he did when he was alive (??? years ago)

      And you would had to play as him without guns (Since he should technically made them in XX or XIX century, due to you know...). 

      It could be an amazing game but you would had to work hard on it. Super hard for it to make logical sense without plot holes.

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    • Meshifuari... it is a great idea to set it 2000 years ago. Dante and Vergil finally come back from hell. Nero finds a manifesto of Sparda in Dante and Vergil's boyhood home. It recalls everything written by Sparda himself...

      Then 2000 years ago... maybe ancient Iceland or Japan or something, Sparda's story of how he becomes a good guy and stands up to Mundus and berial and many more. He sets up Temin-u-gure, seals up hell and becomes humanity's savior. 

      Then end credits scene shows in the modern day Sparda is still alive, watching Dante, Vergil, Nero, Nico, Trish etc...from a distance, knowing they are doing alright. Because Sparda wishes to not be worshipped, he faked his death and dissapears into humanity with a new face and identity. 

      Although, Sparda has lived for 2000 years, he shouldve have hand many descendants by then. 

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    • Surely it'd be nice to see how Sparda turned on his own kind. Perhaps he saw Jesus and realized how precious humanity is. For that, he fought his kin and Mundus.

      Plus he should be traveling to various countries meeting certain historical figures, all kinds of religions, etc. And during the day he meets Eva giving birth to Dante & Vergil.

      Callum, I like the idea of Sparda's death faked and watching over his children, Nero and the others at a distance.

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    • The thing is, Sparda did so many stuff... Defeated Mundus, Argosax, Was a feudal lord of fortuna, trained two demonic brothers and many more... I doubt you could fit all of it into one game. You could possibly make a game series out of his deeds.

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    • I'm not saying to make it one game.

      1. His diccovery of his humanity

      2. His self reflecting

      3. His decision to turn against Mundus

      4. He looses a lot of his pwoer

      5. He takes on human form and fights hell

      6. Regaining his powers. 

      7. Mundus finally eats the fruit and becomes the Demon King.

      8. Sparda defeats Mundus and seals off hell.

      All of this is already one game material. 


      The whole feudal lord can be a DLC which forces him to decide to fake his own death, as he abhors being worshipped. The DLC can end with him staring at Dante, Vergil, Nero, the whole gang at nero's place.... from a distance, before dissapearing into the night.

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    • Here's my own speculative theory



      Maybe, Sparda was saved by a human girl named Eve during late 2000 years ago. Then he changed for good for her but unfortunately, she  died.




      Then after 2000 years later, he met her again and her named was now Eva. 




      Omg, that's a good love story!

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    • If she died how could he met her again after 2000 years?

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    • Meshifuari Arimota wrote:
      If she died how could he met her again after 2000 years?

      Reincarnation..... perhaps

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    • I guess... That could work.  It would be even funnier if Nero was a reincarnation of Sparda.

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    • Take a look at this



      ```He alone defeated the hellish host, before moving on to the Emperor of Darkness himself. Sparda defeated Mundus, sealing him into a marble vault,[4] and what was left of Mundus's armies retreated back into the demon world. In order to close the gateway, Sparda used his own blood, along with the blood of a human priestess, in conjunction with his sword and a mystical amulet. He poured his demonic energy into his beloved sword to close the door between realms, the Temen-ni-gru, though this also robbed him of the lion's share of his abilities. ```



      The human priestess must be Eva or Eve. The first person he fell in love. 



      That might be the case, right? She sacrificed herself in order to seal off the gateways.

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    • Eva and the priestess are 2 different people.

      Sparda faking his death is a horrible idea. It means he watched his wife get brutally murdered, let both his children become traumatized, tried to help neither one of them throughout their lifetime of being hunted/attacked by demons, watched as the world nearly came to an end on at least 4 seperate occasions, and did absolutely nothing about about. Faking his death makes him a shit husband, shit father, and shit person all around.

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    • I think that he meant that the Eva is the reincarnation of priestess. We were mostly talking about headcanon here, gaming theories without any real sources. Just, what if.... 

      I agree about Sparda part of yours Legion. I do wonder what happened to him, how he died... What happened to his soul... or what happens to demonic souls in general after they die, etc.

      Tho prequel game about him could be nice. 

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    • LegionZero wrote:
      Eva and the priestess are 2 different people.

      Sparda faking his death is a horrible idea. It means he watched his wife get brutally murdered, let both his children become traumatized, tried to help neither one of them throughout their lifetime of being hunted/attacked by demons, watched as the world nearly came to an end on at least 4 seperate occasions, and did absolutely nothing about about. Faking his death makes him a shit husband, shit father, and shit person all around.

      He would've accidentally faked his death. He would've been captured by Mundus and dragged into Hell and is being tortured as we speak, with Mundus' followers faking the news that Sparda has been killed. 

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    • Callum Konstantin wrote:

      He would've accidentally faked his death. He would've been captured by Mundus and dragged into Hell and is being tortured as we speak, with Mundus' followers faking the news that Sparda has been killed. 

      Uh I dont like that idea at all... In fact I think that I saw it already in DmC...  ​And I hate DmC with burning passion.

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