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  • Looking at various sites and articles related to Devil May Cry, some said that Dante has a slower aging process thanks to his demonic inheritance, but others claim that Dante ages as a normal human being

    What is the true information and where can I find it? Dante in DMC5 seems to have aged nothing if we consider that a more real visual and a white beard ages anyone

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    • Capcom has handled this quite irresponsibly if you ask me. They only released an estimated age when DMC4 rolled out (they say it's late thirties) and DMC5 hasn't been released yet. I think it's the same case when DMC3 was released, with them only saying he's in his late teens or early twenties. So unless they release it in an artbook or related material somewhere to straighten this out, we're conveniently left in the dark regarding Dante's age.

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    • Deadly Fortune says he ages normally but DMC2 Dante still looks fairly young even though the game is "far into the future"

      The seriea has small hints and statemnts thay can be used to extrapolate his age but it has never been outright stated how old he is.

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    • Considering that DMC5 is using some things from Deadly Fortune, Dante's aging will probably be normal, just like a human

      Maybe they discard DMC2, or Dante's look in DMC2 it's because DMC4 and 5 still were dreams

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    • Dante Demon Killah wrote:
      Considering that DMC5 is using some things from Deadly Fortune, Dante's aging will probably be normal, just like a human

      Maybe they discard DMC2, or Dante's look in DMC2 it's because DMC4 and 5 still were dreams

      Or maybe Dante became a full demon in DMC2?

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    • Oh, that could explain why he's so serious in that game o.o

      Maybe not "full demon", but Dante could have "embraced his Demon blood/heritage"

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    • Dante Demon Killah wrote:
      Oh, that could explain why he's so serious in that game o.o

      Maybe not "full demon", but Dante could have "embraced his Demon blood/heritage"

      I reckon if DMC2 is still canon, DMC5 may be set before it. This game might show us why Dante's personality drastically changed. If he did embrace his demonic heritage, DMC5 may also cover it. I think Dante's age and lifespan would dramatically increase if he embraces his demonic heritage. He'll probably live for millenia and it may be the reason why he looks young again in DMC2.

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    • DMC5 has been confirmed multiple times to be before DMC2

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    • LegionZero wrote:
      DMC5 has been confirmed multiple times to be before DMC2

      Direct sequel to 4 doesnt mean it cant pass DMC2 in timeline :/

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    • Yep

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    • Meshifuari Arimota wrote:

      LegionZero wrote:
      DMC5 has been confirmed multiple times to be before DMC2

      Direct sequel to 4 doesnt mean it cant pass DMC2 in timeline :/

      Thats kind of exatly what it means.....

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    • LegionZero wrote:
      DMC5 has been confirmed multiple times to be before DMC2

      I'm pretty convinced this is the case because it doesn't make sense otherwise. DMC2 shows him as a man who lost everything. DMC5 at least seems to show he hasn't changed to that yet.

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    • DMC2 didnt portray him as anything. That was part of the problem. He was just silent with tye exception of 2 one-liners. Even Vergil was more talkative

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    • @LegionZero So if Dante was about to Die in DMC5 (Let's just assume it, for the sake of argument), that would mean, that DMC 2 would be retconned into non-existence.

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    • Meshifuari Arimota wrote:
      @LegionZero

      So if Dante was about to Die in DMC5 (Let's just assume it, for the sake of argument), that would mean, that DMC 2 would be retconned into non-existence.

      That's a possible explanation if he gets killed off. That's a big if.

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    • Meshifuari Arimota wrote: @LegionZero So if Dante was about to Die in DMC5 (Let's just assume it, for the sake of argument), that would mean, that DMC 2 would be retconned into non-existence.

      Yep. All gone.

      It would be kind of funny if DMC2 was just one of his anime missions and he was lame because he was so bored.

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    • LegionZero wrote:

      It would be kind of funny if DMC2 was just one of his anime missions and he was lame because he was so bored.

      He ran out of pizzas and strawberry sundaes.

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    • Maybe a retcon ? They can just ignore Dante being serious/emotionless in DMC2

      I still believe that the fifth game takes place after the second, we have some clues, Dante arriving by motorcycle, looking older, and being missing

      Remember those supposed spoilers that had been related to the fifth game? So far none have been wrong, and it was said that Dante would be more serious in DMC5

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    • Dante Demon Killah wrote:
      Maybe a retcon ? They can just ignore Dante being serious/emotionless in DMC2

      I still believe that the fifth game takes place after the second, we have some clues, Dante arriving by motorcycle, looking older, and being missing

      Remember those supposed spoilers that had been related to the fifth game? So far none have been wrong, and it was said that Dante would be more serious in DMC5

      They would be ignoring a lot of things in DMC2 if it was set before DMC5. For one thing, Dante's Rebellion looks very different in DMC2, while in DMC5 it mostly looks the same. Then there's the fact that Lucia would need to appear in this game if it's set after DMC2. And when we say 'more serious', it can refer to him fighting seriously (there's a scan of him using Sparda here), not him having the serious and unemotional personality of DMC2. Arriving by motorcycle doesn't add that much weight to this point either, as Dante can get the thing from anywhere within the DMC4-DMC5 timeskip. In the said scene, it's shown at least that he's still fun-loving. Plus, as stated multiple times, DMC5 is a direct sequel to DMC4. If it happened after DMC2, then the devs should've stated it's a direct sequel of that game but they didn't. Retconning stuff will not benefit the series at this point and DMC5 may shed light as to why Dante acts that way in DMC2. Maybe every ally he has dies? But it's my personal theory that Dante fully embraces his demon side in 5, which is why he looks young again in 2.

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    • Well, in DMC4, on "DMC History", DMC2 Dante profile explicit states that by that time Dante embraced "the legacy of his father, with the hope for one day living Up to Sparda's legend"

      Maybe he will lost everything in DMC 5 ? 

      The sad part of this is that DMC5 was stated as the last game or at least the end of the Sons of Sparda saga, so...maybe they discard DMC2, and even if they don't, is Dante's "end" really to be stuck in the Underworld ? Perhaps "embracing the Legacy of his father" made him decide to live in his father's home, just like Vergil said in the end of DMC3

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    • It was highly implied in the end of DMC2 that he came back. Matier also said Sparda did the same thing and we know he came back.

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    • Secondo me Dante a causa della sua metà demoniaca viva la metà di un demone puro e poi bisogna considerare che l aspetto del padre come lo conosciamo è una trasformazione che i demoni forti possono ottenere e questo lo si vede in tutta la saga quindi l aspetto di coloro che ottengono tale trasformazione è di demoni con sembianze umane e quindi l unica differenza tra un demone puro e uno per metà è soltanto l età. Quindi secondo me se Devil May Cry 5 fosse ambientato nel 2019 Dante avrebbe 55 anni

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    • A causa della sua metà demoniaca

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    • LegionZero wrote:
      DMC5 has been confirmed multiple times to be before DMC2

      Any sources to confirm this? Dante looks much older than he did in DMC2. So it can't possibly take before DMC, unless if they're planning to retcon some things.

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    • He looks older because of graphics.

      The devs have come out since this conversation and clarified that 5 is after 2. If youbhave questions about this stuff check the references on the relevent pages and you should find your answer.

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    • Yeah, and with the new leak, they also gave Dante's age a Retcon

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    • So how old is he now?  Late 40's ? Early 50's ?

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    • No retcon. Dante is 38ish in 4. According to DMC5 just turned 18, so that puts 5 anywhere between 8-11 years after the anime. Patty's age was never revealed but id estimate shes 8-10.

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    • Well, the thing is: the time gap between DMC1 and Anime

      Because Dante is 28/29 in 1

      And many people believe that Dante is around 30 in the Anime, and Patty is around 8-10 and 18 in 5

      So basically, if Dante is around 30 in the Anime, then he is 38-40 in DMC5 maybe a little more

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    • I've always thought that it went like that:

      • DMC3: 18
      • DMC1: 28
      • DMC4:30+
      • DMC2: 40+
      • DMC5: Late 40 or early 50.

      That of course is only my headcanon

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    • Meshifuari Arimota wrote:
      I've always thought that it went like that:
      • DMC3: 18
      • DMC1: 28
      • DMC4:30+
      • DMC2: 40+
      • DMC5: Late 40 or early 50.

      That of course is only my headcanon


      Yeah, I was thinking in something like that buuuuut

      • DMC3 Manga = 18
      • DMC3 = 19 (one year fro the last fight between Dante and Vergil, that was in the manga)
      • DMC1 = 28/29
      • DMC Anime = Since Dante is the same from the first game (same outfit) and Trish left the DMC shop after getting tired of Dante, it is believed that this relation would be broken in 1 or 2 years at best, Dante might be 30 or 31, and Patty is like 8 to 10 or 11
      • DMC4 = Late 30s, as stated
      • DMC Novel 2 = Reaaaaaally late 30s
      • DMC2 = Likely the same as the Novel, since they are directly conected
      • DMC5 = Patty is 18 here and was around 10 in the anime, which Dante is 30/31, so basically, Dante in DMC5 is around 8 to 10 years older than the Anime, so he's around 38 to 40 years in this last game
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    • Going by what you've stated... There's like 2 or 3 year gap between DMC 1 and 4 as well as 4 and 2. Which could be possible... After all Dante in DMC 2 doesnt look that old. Yet he looks rather old in DMC 5.

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    • Or the time gap between 4 / Novel / 2 is really short

      Or the anime is like, some more years after 1, if Dante is 34 in Anime, which is perfectly possible, he would be 42/44 in 5

      I remember that Okabe, one of the producers of DMC5, said that many things they keep ambiguos just to fans make theorys about it, and they did this with Dante's age now, because we only know Patty's age in 5, but we don't know for sure her age in the anime or how many years the Anime takes place after DMC1, it's impossible to say Dante's age, we can only say that he's not at his 50

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    • In before... Itsuno will say that Dante is in his 60 :P  Making even bigger mess.

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    • Gonna be that guy who says in DMC 1 trish says it's been 20 years since dante lost his mother and brother. Which would put DMC 1 20 years after 3 and making him 10 years older than the estimated. Sadly also making lady 50-ish in DMC 5 which is just complete horse shit. But that's the bs timeline they've made for us. End of the day its Devil may cry, who actually cares?

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    • And im going to be that guy to tell you that 20 years before DMC1 Dante's mother died and Vergil disappeared and Dante believed him dead until the DMC3 manga when they met again.

      So no DMC1 is not 20 years after 3, its 9 years after 3. Trish was referring to the initial incident that caused Dante's family to fall apart.

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    • LegionZero wrote:
      DMC5 has been confirmed multiple times to be before DMC2

      The game's "story so far" video on the main menu of DMC5 finalizes and confirms the official order of prologue of DMC, DMC3 book, DMC, anime, DMC2, DMC4 and DMC5.  That's directly from the game itself.

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    • Why are you responding to a comment that i made almost a year before the timeline was retconned? And ignoring that i talked about how the timeline has been changed in more recent posts?

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    • In devil may cry 1 dante's age is 28 , because when eva dies dante's is 8 years and in devil may cry 1 when trish talk to dante she told him he lost his brother and his mother 20 years ago

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    • I'm just gunna say Dante is like 45 to 48 in DMC 5 based on his aged appearance

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    • Dante is 44 in 5. He was 38 in 4 and 5 is six years after

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    • Yeah 44 sounds right

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    • LegionZero wrote: Dante... was 38 in 4

      How do you figure?

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    • According to Kamiya he was 28 in DMC1. Which means Eva died when he was 8.

      The manga is 10 years after that, making him 18.

      3 is 1 year after the manga, making him 19.

      Kobayashi said 4Nero is the same age 3Dante.

      Since Vergil went to Fortuna between the manga and 3 that would make DMC4 19 years after DMC3

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    • But Sanctus in Deadly Fortune states that it was exactly 17 years ago when he'd seen Vergil. Can't find the exact quote or context of HK saying about 'same age', but it could be 'about the same age', which is applicable to 16-17 and 18-19 yo's.

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    • 4:SE puts Vergil in Fortuna 20 years before DMC4. They didnt reincorporate DF's timeline.

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    • LegionZero wrote: 4:SE puts Vergil in Fortuna 20 years before DMC4.

      It doesn't. 'A few decades ago' is a misunderstanding of japanese '十数-', which is a prefix for '-teen' number quantities (or more precisely - 'more than 10, less than 20'), and 17 falls under that.

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    • Or the japanese version is the mistranslated version.

      Either way Nero being 19 is accurate to both versions and is corroborates an earlier statement in an interview where they said Dante was in his late 30's.

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    • So far 17 hasn't been refuted, so either Vergil being in Fortuna several times or Nero being born 2 years old are the only ways for him to be 19 in DMC4.

      Also can you point me to the interview about late 30's?

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    • Playstation Magazine january 2007.

      17 was never confirmed. I dont put much stock into Bingo's independent retelling using concepts/ideas that were ultimately abandoned or outright changed since it doesnt align well with the rest of the series

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    • Not sure what you mean by 'independent' - DF is a story publication officially recognized by Capcom, announced and advertised on DMC4 off.site (as 'complete novelization') and later on HDC off.site along with novels 1,2, manga 3 and anime. Therefore, anything written in it is official and needs no further reconfirmation (but it can be retconned ofc - as anything else, 17 so far wasn't).

      About 'the rest of the series' - most of it since 3 was written by Bingo. And discrepancies with DF are miniscule if you compare it to those of, say, DMC3 with 1, but all of them are still in the same continuity.

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    • Independant i mean where in Bingo gets complete control over what is os in the novel. IIRC Bingo was the one who said DF was the "complete version" of DMC4, not Capcom itself. Also just because it is licensed and released through Capcom doesnt mean it is the canon. Itsuno dropped certain scenes/concepts/ideas from DF in the final version of 4, and then 4SE and DMC5 came out and for the most part, ignored the novel's additions/alterations.

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    • [Kanzen noberaizu]

      Someone's bound to have control over things - whether it's Kamiya, Chayamachi, Goikeda or Morihashi - it doesn't change the work's status and no one's stock ain't gonna change it too. Capcom released it as canon work and it is canon if anything is.

      Itsuno couldn't drop ideas from DF in 4, since DF was written afterwards (and as later work it takes the high ground by default tbh), and I'm yet to see those significant deviations 4SE and 5 took from DF (Horde of demons outside Dante's office? Vergil's shadow in his son's demon form? - well, I don't put much stock into these).

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    • The claim of the novel being the complete version of 4 came from Bingo and no one else who worked on the series later. Capcom released Viewtiful Joe that featured Alastor as a character and a storyline featuring Dante/Trish/Mundus but those events arent canon to DMC. Simply being released doesnt make a work canon. The have you seen the DMC comics??

      Deviations or changes that are not integrated into later entries include:

      • Dante owning Luci/Gilga/Pandora prior to 4
      • Dante finishing off corrosponding bosses with those Devil Arms
      • Trish having stolen and giving those DA's to the Order along with Sparda
      • Nero seeing Vergil in his dreams
      • Nero seeing and speaking to Vergil just prior to awakening his DT
      • Red Queen and Blue Rose melting in the Savior
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    • You don't know whom this claim came from - but know it's official, I posted the link, and they don't need to reconfirm it every other day for doubting Thomases. Also I don't think Joe was ever stated to take place in the same story continuity as DMC (in Kamiya's headcanon they maybe are). And I can't find the status of Dreamwave comics on any off.sites - it could be alternative/non-canon.

      L/G/P is not a contradiction, since the game doesn't tell where the Order got them from, and something not shown =/= couldn't have happened. Retrieving DA's before boss fights is a miniscule story/gameplay necessity difference. And DF is a later entry to 4.

      Nero's visions - same as above - could've happened, just not shown.

      RQ/BR - most probably retcon in 5, but Nero also could've made new ones.

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    • Davidhater wrote:

      You don't know whom this claim came from - but know it's official, I posted the link, and they don't need to reconfirm it every other day for doubting Thomases.

      Official =/= canon

      Davidhater wrote:

      Also I don't think Joe was ever stated to take place in the same story continuity as DMC (in Kamiya's headcanon they maybe are).

      DF wasnt stated to be the canon version of DMC4, but by your logic, simply existing and being published by Capcom makes it so.

      Davidhater wrote:

      And I can't find the status of Dreamwave comics on any off.sites - it could be alternative/non-canon.

      It is officially licensed by Capcom, but i can tell you it is nothing like the game.

      Davidhater wrote:

      L/G/P is not a contradiction, since the game doesn't tell where the Order got them from, and something not shown =/= couldn't have happened. Retrieving DA's before boss fights is a miniscule story/gameplay necessity difference. And DF is a later entry to 4.

      L/P/G is a contradiction because Lady said that problems only excalated because Trish brought Sparda. Ladybalso mentuined that the Order was already collecting Devil Arms prior to Trish/Dante going there.

      It is also not mentioned that Dante owned them or that Trish brought them in the Devil Arm files in 4SE, which featured new/updated file entries.

      Also, if it wasnt shown or stated, it didnt happen.

      Davidhater wrote:

      Nero's visions - same as above - could've happened, just not shown.

      If it wasnt stated/shown, it didnt happen. Nero also didn't recognize Vergil upon his resurrection.

      Davidhater wrote:

      RQ/BR - most probably retcon in 5, but Nero also could've made new ones.

      It is not a retcon in 5, because it was an idea that was scrapped from 4's original release and not incorporated into 4SE. In both versions of the game Nero uses Blue Rose after leaving the Savior so they didnt melt and it isnt stated or shown in any subsequent materials that Nero rebuilt them.

      Either DF is no longer canon after 4:SE or wasnt canon in the first place. Im going with the latter

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    • Irrelevant, absolutely irrelevant.

      Deadly Fortune was canon the moment it was published. Deadly Fortune IS canon now. And it will be canon until Capcom publicly and directly states that it isn't anymore (or until its events will be completely overwritten by later canonic publications). Period. That's how it should be regarded on the wiki.

      On the actual topic of this thread - I am amazed of your ability to derive exact numbers from approximations, speculations and assumptions and to ignore actual exact numbers in canonic publications at the same time.

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    • Davidhater wrote: Irrelevant, absolutely irrelevant.

      Deadly Fortune was canon the moment it was published. Deadly Fortune IS canon now. And it will be canon until Capcom publicly and directly states that it isn't anymore (or until its events will be completely overwritten by later canonic publications). Period. That's how it should be regarded on the wiki.

      If publication=canon then we have to find where Shin Megami, Viewtiful Joe, MVC3, MVCI fit in to the DMCverse.

      Oh and by your own logic, DF isnt canon because 4SE was released. No matter which way you slice it, DF isnt canon.

      Davidhater wrote:

      On the actual topic of this thread - I am amazed of your ability to derive exact numbers from approximations, speculations and assumptions and to ignore actual exact numbers in canonic publications at the same time.

      I dont use speculation/assumptions. There are 1 or 2 approximations, but assuming that the word "about" ranges years out from the number given would be more wrong then just using the numbers given. Using the available canonical statements and some critical thinking the numbers can be worked out rather easily.

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    • LegionZero wrote: If publication=canon then we have to find where Shin Megami, Viewtiful Joe, MVC3, MVCI fit in to the DMCverse.

      Well he would have to, if those had actually been published with the title "Devil May Cry" attached to them. Seriously, this is an absurd argument, it's like saying Devil May Cry is a canon part of Bayonetta just because it has a couple of references in it.

      If someone associated with Capcom has said something is canon, you don't get to overrule them. If the canon contradicts itself, the latest thing does not overwrite the oldest, we report there is a contradiction.

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    • This isnt about reporting stuff on articles.

      DMC wouldnt be linked to Bayonetta because they have different publishers and only has vague references.

      The games i mentioned are either published by Capcom or used DMC characters with official permission from Capcom.

      I would also like to point out, as i have at least 3 times already. No one ever said DF canon version of DMC4.

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